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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2010, 16:40
Sep 26, 2010, 13:00
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Some very interesting and valid points there Gladman. One thing that genuinely intrigues me is, why do the orthodox Darwinians behave so hysterically when the thorny question of the inconsistencies and gaping holes in the fossil record are mentioned eg. Stephen Gould, Prof. of Zoology and Geology at Harvard :'The fossil record offers no support for gradual change', and David Schnidel, Prof. Of Zoology at Yale : 'transitions between presumed ancestors and descendants are missing' (Nature journal). To question what is still only a theory, no matter how widely held, is treated tantamount to heresy, and can result in exactly the same 'righteous' fury as from any past/present prevailing Religious Orthodoxy. It is automatically assumed that one must be a deluded creationist/fundamentalist Christian, or just plain insane, rather than posessing an open, curious and enquring mind. I don't belive in any GOD in the terms set down by organised religious institutions, and I personally believe that science and intelligent spirituality can easily co-exist. I personally find the Chaos theory approach to Evolution a fascinating alternate possibility as well. Maybe Fred Hoyle, the emminent Astronomer/Cosmolgist was on to something when he posited that the random chance creation of life forms was similar to the chances of ' a tornado sweeping through a junkyard and assembling a Boeing 747'. It certainly makes one think. (Edited for typos and clarity).
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Resonox 604 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 13:10
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thesweetcheat wrote: GLADMAN wrote: How many times have I seen the Daily Mail quote 'this is a Christian country with Christian Values' - whatever they might be - to justify policy. Interesting enough, some poll figures I saw this week that show that 20% of people in Britain give "no religion" as their denomination, against only 1% that give "other religion", which presumably includes Paganism. Still over 70% give "Christian" as their religion: http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/?tag=office-for-national-statistics
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 13:38
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Resonox wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: GLADMAN wrote: How many times have I seen the Daily Mail quote 'this is a Christian country with Christian Values' - whatever they might be - to justify policy. Interesting enough, some poll figures I saw this week that show that 20% of people in Britain give "no religion" as their denomination, against only 1% that give "other religion", which presumably includes Paganism. Still over 70% give "Christian" as their religion: http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/?tag=office-for-national-statistics Another 50 years and the muslim faith will probably dominate.
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Resonox 604 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 13:46
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Sanctuary wrote: Another 50 years and the muslim faith will probably dominate. Doesn't it already?? Given the human phsyche..does anyone think a world where religion doesn't exist (in any form) could be possible..would we as a race accept that en masse?
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thesweetcheat 6219 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 13:50
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Sanctuary wrote: Resonox wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: GLADMAN wrote: How many times have I seen the Daily Mail quote 'this is a Christian country with Christian Values' - whatever they might be - to justify policy. Interesting enough, some poll figures I saw this week that show that 20% of people in Britain give "no religion" as their denomination, against only 1% that give "other religion", which presumably includes Paganism. Still over 70% give "Christian" as their religion: http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/?tag=office-for-national-statistics Another 50 years and the muslim faith will probably dominate. It's interesting - I was surprised by the relatively low percentage of muslims given. It seems just as likely that in 50 years the "no religion" category will dominate. Maybe a perception of Islam as "taking over" is symptomatic of the media's obsession with Islam as a source of concern. From my own reaction to the stats (i.e. surprise at the low % of muslims), I'm obviously as influenced by this portrayal as anyone.
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tjj 3606 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 16:27
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The Sea Cat wrote: By the way, apologies for the accidental conversation intrusion. I'd popped in and didn't mean to interrupt, and my response was a general one, not directed at you specifically Gladman/tjj. :-) The Sea Cat, I love it when you 'pop in' because I know I will be given food for thought - over the way, where things don't seem to be taken quite so seriously, I usually get a great music-link and/or a laugh. Your presence is only beneficial here. I haven't as yet answered Gladman's post as its a 'stand alone' superb piece of writing - I shall go back and read it (and yours) a few times. Like Gladman said ... forum at its best. best wishes tjj
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2010, 16:48
Sep 26, 2010, 16:46
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By the way, apologies for the accidental conversation intrusion. I'd popped in and didn't mean to interrupt, and my response was a general one, not directed at you specifically Gladman/tjj. :-)
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 16:48
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According to the census 2.6% of people in Brighton are Jedi. It's hard to make judgements or comparisons about other people's beliefs, but there are a few little ways to make sensible assessments. For instance, who would you rather have as an absolute ruler in this country - a Jedi or the pope? No contest really is it?! ;)
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tjj 3606 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 16:53
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tjj wrote: The Sea Cat wrote: By the way, apologies for the accidental conversation intrusion. I'd popped in and didn't mean to interrupt, and my response was a general one, not directed at you specifically Gladman/tjj. :-) The Sea Cat, I love it when you 'pop in' because I know I will be given food for thought - over the way, where things don't seem to be taken quite so seriously, I usually get a great music-link and/or a laugh. Your presence is only beneficial here. I haven't as yet answered Gladman's post as its a 'stand alone' superb piece of writing - I shall go back and read it (and yours) a few times. Like Gladman said ... forum at its best. best wishes tjj Bump ... once again I answered you twenty minutes before you made your post ... spooky, and it 'aint even Hallow'en.
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Sep 26, 2010, 18:11
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Hey tjj! For you. I know you'll dig. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_f3pZpFxWk&p=7760349C534A7B89&playnext=1&index=31
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