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arryaparry
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uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 11:29
Dear all,

We all know about the Michael line stretching from Land's End to Bury St Edmonds right? Well most of us know that if yo disect this line at Avebury through 90 degrees, you should intersect both the Isles of Wight and Man. Okay, take this further.. If you take a line from Land's End to John O'Groats you will find it intersects the Isle of Man too. Okay, nothing new you say. But take the angle from the Lands End to John O'Groats line / Land's End to Bury St Edmonds line (50 degr.) and transfer it to John O'Groats heading South West (it should cross the IOW / IOM line at 45 degr.)

Now try circling the British Isles using the Land's End / John O'Groats line as a diameter and taking an angle of 50 degr. from this latest line (John O'Groats heading SW) at the edge of the circle. The following new line should disect the British Isles again passing through Belfast, the Isle of Man and join back up with the Land's End / Bury St Edmond's line at Norfolk with an angle of 50 degrees.

Is this significant or is it just mathematics and coincidence?

These investigations are at an early stage so please bear with me but if you have any comments or further findings please let me know at [email protected]

Harri
AgentOrange
AgentOrange
221 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 12:05
My first thought is what is the precision on this? Taking a line through the IOW? Which part of the IOW, how wide is the line? To what precision are you measuring the angles? I think its a 'coincidence'. None of these are natural numbers, they are made up by people and thus only have significance to people. Therefore, if you are measuring angles and distances between human settlements there may be some significance, but test this against any arbitralily chosen location...
juamei
juamei
2013 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 12:15
Make enough lines on a map, you'll get some points joining up eventually.
Found an attempt at mathematically assessing leylines a while ago, but I can't remember where. Hmm..
IronMan
IronMan
601 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 12:32
>Is this significant or is it just mathematics and >coincidence?

It is just mathematics and coincidence.
If it isn't *just* mathematics and coincidence and it *is* significant - what exactly does it signify? What is the plan behind it? What use is it?

Also, as an aside, how can anything be considered *just* mathematics and coincidence? That kind of trivialises just about *everything* really...
FourWinds
FourWinds
10943 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 12:38
My first thought is that if you speak to anyone who is *seriously* into leys then they will tell you that the Michael Line is a load of tosh. Well, that's this weeks theory anyway.

I think everything has been said already.

All coincidences and interesting maths but nothing significant. If you get drunk and squint at a map of the UK & Ireland they look like a Kangaroo & a Koala ... does that mean they were brought the their current locations from the antipides by aliens?
FourWinds
FourWinds
10943 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 12:52
Two little things I'd like to add:

Firstly, hi & welcome.

Second is a little more related to your comments.

10,000 years ago (or there abouts) just before the ice melted at the end of the last ice age the land mass of the UK was pretty much as it is now. The only difference was the amount of land above sea level. The coast lines were anything upto 50 miles further 'out to sea' than they are now and not at all in an even way. This means that all your geometric measurements have only been valid for 8000 years ago and if the sea level continues to rise they are only valid for a limited period.

From this alone you can see that there is no significance in them at all.

I hope you don't think we have come down hard on you, but I think 85% of us here are *antiquarians* rather than *New Agers* and not many of us believe in the mystic powers of Leys.

We have in the past acknowledged that certain ancient pathways, through being repeatedly trampled and compacted will obviously produce odd magnetic anomalies (after all modern geophysical techniques rely on this), but as for the tracks following some deeper *line of ultimate power that binds the universe* stuff goes I for one believe it to be bunkum.

There are many valid alignments between ancient sites that are worth cataloging and noting, but these tend to be sight lines, because that was the extent of communication abilities back then. Lines of sight would have to be maintained for practicalities.
IronMan
IronMan
601 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 13:20
eek! Yeah, sorry - Hi and welcome aboard!

I hope I didn't come across too damning in my post.

I think the more angles (hehe) and opinions you have access to on this whole subject, the better - personally, as I said before, I don't buy any of the 'mystic power of leylines' stuff, but...
grufty jim
grufty jim
1978 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 14:00
Also, don't forget that the Isle of Man has only been in existence for a coupla thousand years... it's the result of a fight between an Irish giant and a Scottish giant.

The Irish giant scooped up a big chunk of land (the hole left behind is Loch Neagh in Northern Ireland) and threw it at the Scottish one. It appears, however, that he was a crap aim... and it splashed down into the Irish Sea.

So now you know.
FourWinds
FourWinds
10943 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 18, 2002, 14:07
The self same Scottish giant actually came to Ireland and left his 'load' here! in the form of Proleek Dolmen.

Cheeky git. Sorry, that's "Mr. Cheeky Git" to me apparently. Ok, Ok ... I moving along .....
Scott7
174 posts

Re: uncanny angles
Jul 19, 2002, 09:12
good thing he/she didn't bring up the subject of crop circles!

we all would have come out of the woodwork then....
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