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Paulus 769 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 21:17
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slumpystones wrote: Troll? Most definitely. Aww god - here we go yet again. There's 2 of you at it now. Ever thought of simplynot talking back with people you don't agree with? I do it all the time, especially on TMA. I have to with some of the shallow shit I read on the forums at times. You're the one who's swearing. You're the one who's replying to Mustard's words. You don''t have to y' know. Or is your ego too big to say, 'Let's agree to disagree?' If Nigel, Goff and others can say, 'Hey, I've had enough, or can't be arsed' (so to speak), try and have the strength and humility to be as clever as them. It's easy y' know. Unless you're a troll aswell of course...
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Paulus 769 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 21:20
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slumpystones wrote: More trolling? Of course, what else do you have but "well you did this and you did that, and I'm so innocent, because all I did was..." ? Now you're just being plain ridiculous! Do you still chew a dummy?
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Mustard 1043 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 21:21
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Paulus wrote: slumpystones wrote: Troll? Most definitely. Aww god - here we go yet again. There's 2 of you at it now. Ever thought of simplynot talking back with people you don't agree with? I do it all the time, especially on TMA. I have to with some of the shallow shit I read on the forums at times. You're the one who's swearing. You're the one who's replying to Mustard's words. You don''t have to y' know. Or is your ego too big to say, 'Let's agree to disagree?' If Nigel, Goff and others can say, 'Hey, I've had enough, or can't be arsed' (so to speak), try and have the strength and humility to be as clever as them. It's easy y' know. Unless you're a troll aswell of course... They might drop the troll nonsense if they'd had the sense to look at my website....
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Paulus 769 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 21:24
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Hi Mirla - Mirla wrote: What do people know about this group! They are putting up signs around local penwith monuments such as Tregeseal stone circle. These signs are ugly lumps of stone with bold writing warning people that they will be prosecuted if they are found to be damaging these sites.....in their opinion "damaging" includes -Lighting fires (Understandable-i agree) -Dropping litter (I agree) -Camping (depending on the respect of the campers) But the next one i find stupid... -No leaving offerings of any kind!!!!! From early childhood, even though neither my parents or i are religious in any way, i have been brought up to respect these places and have often left a small gift of plaited grasses, wildflowers or interesting natural items that have been found on the walk. I DO NOT however agreee that non-bio degradable objects such as plastic flowers, toys and other items should be left as these can spoil the natural beauty and atmosphere of the site. However some of these sites are still in use by groups who practise alternative beliefs such as Pagan groups. They use these sites as sacred places and respect them, as this is what they were built for, i see no problem in them being used as they should be. It shows that there is still respect for the old Ways and beliefs, i believe this protects the site more than the threat of prosecution. In my opinion, this way of 'protecting' these sites is just evidence of a breakdown in communication between different grups of people and i know that many people have been discoraged from visiting these places and that in general, local people are disappointed with the way that things have been done. Anyone have any views on this subject? Should Ancient sites still be used as they were built for? Why does protection always include prosecution? Is is right? Your thoughts either Agreeing or Disagreeing would be great! Cheers Mirla Just look at all the trouble which ensues after your simple queries. Crazy innit? It's obviously all your fault! :) They'll calm down eventually when it's their bedtime - though no doubt they'll carry on stamping their feet in the morning! You could always throw another question into the pot and see how the children stir. Go on, please..... Oh well, such is life! All the best - Paul
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Paulus 769 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 21:32
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Mustar wrote: They might drop the troll nonsense if they'd had the sense to look at my website.... Don't kid y'self Mustard. I told you - they're like politicians: love the sound of their own voices; love putting people down with differing viewpoints; and will always wait in the wings to have another prod at the first chance. The one thing I've never really studied about this particular species however, is whether they actually practice at being irresponsive to anything but their own opinions, or whether its a genetic abnormality. Evidence points to the latter of the two - but like I say, I've never looked into the studies. Seems pretty pointless anyway. Whereabouts are y' from anyway? North, Midlands, south, Scotland?
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ryaner 679 posts |
Jun 27, 2007, 23:16
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Mustard wrote: They might drop the troll nonsense …if you stop the troll-like behaviour – 33% of the posts on this thread. Mustard wrote: if they'd had the sense to look at my website. I initially thought you were just arguing for arguments sake. Now I understand – you're promoting your website! BTW – I had the sense to check your website yesterday. I don't know what came over me.
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FourWinds 10943 posts |
Jun 28, 2007, 05:51
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This is a massive thread and I haven't got time to read it all right now, so I'm probably asking something that somebody as already asked ... What are these great big lump of rock with the writing on like? And where abouts have they been placed at each site? I find placing a stone sign at, say, a stone circle a bit silly. I know it probably blends in better, but if it's too close and too obvious then people will start to think that it's part of the monument. The next step from that is people thinking it's ok to write on part of the monument. Furthermore, a large foreign piece of stone is going to alter photographsom this point on and could be confusing. Does anyone have a picture of one of these 'signs'? As to the offerings issue, everyone knows my view. I don't like finding them when I visit sites. In my mind they should be classed as litter. The odd daisy chain is fine - unless daisies are foreign to the area - it shows that people have spent time there. What I do object to is bouquets of flowers in plastic wrappings and ribbons. I don't like tealights being left for animals to hurt themselves on. I don't like finding wax dripping down the stones.
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goffik 3926 posts |
Jun 28, 2007, 06:07
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Mornin, FW Don't worry - these signs (the ones I've seen, anyhoo) are sensitively placed outside the site - normally on the path to it... I have a pic of one - will post it later unless someone beats me to it! G x
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FourWinds 10943 posts |
Jun 28, 2007, 06:13
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Thanks. I had expected it to be so, but you never know. Sometimes the best intentions lead to the strangest results :-)
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ocifant 1758 posts |
Jun 28, 2007, 06:30
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Certainly at Boscawen-Un, the stone is actually at the layby on the A30, nowhere near the circle itself. Similarly at the Merry Maidens (Lamorna), the stone is outside the field which contains the stones - again, in the layby on the B3315. I don't have a photo unfortunately, but the text includes the info that was on the original paper notices, and includes a phone number to report any problems. The guys in Cornwall have put a lot of thought, time and effort into this and are to be applauded in my view.
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