Rockrich
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:24
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I'd go quarrying there FW.
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rocknicker
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:25
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got this great image in my mind now ...!
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Rockrich
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:26
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rockartuk wrote: Hmmm....the person I have in mind would even lift you gently!?
Peter Crouch? :-)
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Rockrich
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:31
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Rockrich wrote: I'd go quarrying there FW.
I think 'for' should have included somewhere.
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rocknicker
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:37
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LOL
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StoneLifter
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:41
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If you call those cupmarks (and they're on the deep side for cups) then they are canoe-shaped cupmarks. Even allowing for a couple of hundred years erosion they are not a splintered, jagged, and just generally nasty, as you'd expect 'quarrymen's marks' to be. I know you think the Megalithic Inch is the invention of fairies - despite its continued use in China, Asia and wherever acupuncture is practised - but it is a simple way of pseudo-verifying these things.
I'm tempted to post an image of what quarrymen's marks really look like. I've posted it before. And, with the canoe-shaped cupmarks there's always the open question of 'if they went to all that trouble to mark the stone why did they then abandon it' ?
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FourWinds
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 17:59
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Rockrich wrote: I'd go quarrying there FW.
And you'd (probably) be wrong :-) They're very common throughout County Wicklow sites
http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/116
http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/55
http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/63
http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/6480 (these ones are old enough to have folklore about them)
http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/2427
They are far too evenly spaced and of equal size for them to be quarrying marks. And, as stonelifter says. why go to all that (very precise) trouble and not break the stone?
This one makes no sense at all - http://www.megalithomania.com/show/image/57 - Why that pattern of marks to break a stone?
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Hob
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Re: Rock Art in Museums near Kent
Feb 26, 2007, 19:42
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Probably the ones in the British Museum.
Greenwell's Harbottle Peels thing (but it's not actually got any cups on it) is meant to be there, as is one of the Cist covers from Dod Moor. I dunno if they're on display though.
Dunno if there's more in the BM, but I suspect there will be.
Nearest RA to Kent still out in the field probably is either the ones in the Peaks, or the Fyfield thing Juamei was asking about the other day.
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Paulus
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Re: Rock Art in walls
Feb 26, 2007, 19:47
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No - RockRich is right I'm afraid. Half of them are quarry or chisel-marks. Sorry.
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StoneLifter
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Re: Rock Art in Museums near Kent
Feb 26, 2007, 19:52
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The nearest RA to Kent might actually be at Stonehenge - remember the axes ?
Whenever I go onto the Quay, in the N. Business Park, the security fellas turn out in their van to watch what I'm doing (I wonder why!).
Collingwood-Bruce's painting - if it is a painting - of the Bewick main panel in 1865 has these elongated cupmarks, four in a line and a fifth not far off it, as part of the integral design, rather than as quarrymarks. It's odd because the 1860 drawing, by someone else, doesn't show them at all. (It doesn't show a lot of other things either). It's just odd.
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