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zphage 3378 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 04:43
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Italy as the third of the Axis powers went through the same trajectory that has been outlined in Jap/Kraut-rocksamplers. Other than some Le Orme, Area, and Balletto Dibronzo is there enough wierdness in Italian rock that isn't "prog"?
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Stevo 6664 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 09:33
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zphage wrote: is there enough wierdness in Italian rock that isn't "prog"? No, I doubt it but they did put out quite a bit of prog that was actually rewarding . I do prefer the heavy end of the material from there to the straighter symphonic stuff I think is better known though. Somebody on another chatlist posted a list of their top 50 Italian prog lps and what I've heard from it has been great. I think I may have posted the list here some years back so it might be available in the archives. I also got a 2 volume Prog Rock from Italy dvd set from Dime which has some interesting stuff on. It seems that certain parts of European prog have a differently nuanced approach to the music than the Brit stuff that earned bad reputation. More music orientated than chop demonstration orientated methinks. If you like Baletto di Bronzo's Ys I think you'd like some of the other stuff from the country. I think Ys is pretty proggy anyway, just demonstrating how good the genre could be. It is played with an intensity one doesn't automatically identify with the genre though too. I might come back later & list a few titles of things worth checking out. Stevo
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LMan 763 posts |
Edited Oct 24, 2007, 11:07
Oct 24, 2007, 11:05
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It looks like there are lots of Italian stuff worth investigating. To the ones you mention I would add early-mid seventies Battiato (especially 'Fetus' and 'Pollution'), Biglietto Per L'Inferno's first album and Pierrot Lunaire (especially their second album, 'Gudrun') I haven't heard any Area or Le Orme stuff though. Any recommendation?
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited Oct 24, 2007, 13:38
Oct 24, 2007, 13:37
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Le Orme's 'Felona e Sorona' is pretty indispensible. None of their other records do much for me though 'Contrappunti' comes in a close second even if it lacks the 'x' factor.
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zphage 3378 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 14:52
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The link that Stevo speaks of is gone. But the discussions are still in Unsung, and they are pretty much centered on the same bands.
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Stevo 6664 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 15:53
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Here's one list I was sent in 2004. I think this may not be the one I was referring to, since I think that listed record company etc. The BTf.it link that was in my 2004 post doesn't work itself but the host of that page is still there. I think there may have been a split as somebody took their top artists list elsewhere. That shop is about the cheapest for Italian prog stuff though. Very cheap p+p too Alphataurus - Same Apoteosi - Same Atlantide - Frencesco Ti Ricordi Bambibanda E Melodie - Same Blocco Mentale - Poa Califfi - Fiore Di Metallo Campo Di Marte - Same Citta Frontale - El Tor Circus 2000 - Same and An Escape From A Box Dalton - Riflessioni-Idea I'nfinito Duello Madre - Same Edgar Allan Poe - Generazioni (Storia Di Sempre) Electric Frankenstein - What Me Worry? Flea - Topi O Uomini Formula 3 - All Albums Garybaldi - Nuda and Astrolabio I Giganti - Terra In Bocca Locanda Delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Si Amano Piu Maxophone - Same Murple - I Sono Murple Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Nouva Idea - All Albums Osage Tribe - Arrow Head Osanna - L'Oumo and Palepoli Il Paese Di Balocchi - Same Panna Freda - Uno Planetarium - Infinity Quella Vecchia Locanda - Same (stay of their 2nd) Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per...Un Mondo Di Cristallo I Raminghi - Il Lungo Cammino Dei Raminghi Ricordi D'infanzia - Io Uomo Il Rovescio Della Medaglia - All Albums Samadhi - Same Semiramis - Dedicato A Frazz I Teoremi - Same The Trip - All Albums L'Uovo Di Colombo - Same That's about sums it up... Stevo
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zphage 3378 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 16:16
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Excellent. Thank you.
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gogmagog 176 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 18:05
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Area or Area International Popular Band as they sometimes go by, put out quite a few LPs. "Crac" from 74? has some scorching avant prog-jazz - Check "Metropoli" 7 minutes of heaven - and in their vocalist Demetrio Stratos they had a true seer - made Peter Hammill sound like Peters and Lee - - a later Lp Maledetti (Maudits) is much more avant-garde in style - aggressive abstract noise-jazz - heard good things about the Arbeit macht Frei Lp but don't own a copy myself.
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Dog 3000 4611 posts |
Oct 24, 2007, 23:25
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I know very little in this area, but did come across an Italian proggo album by Picchio Dal Pozzo (means "Woodpecker of the Well" I think) from circa 1976 which is quite excellent. Very Canterbury/Zappa -- definitely not "wank" prog.
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Stevo 6664 posts |
Oct 25, 2007, 08:00
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I posted that list yesterday just before going out so didn't check over it closely. I do notice a couple of things missing now that I have There's no Cervello for one thing, great lp by band with 16 year old guitarist who's very taken by John Mclaughlin. No Jumbo or J.E.T either and those 2 are highly regarded. I'll check the archives of another list & see if I can find the list I was thinking of. Stevo Np Birthday Party sydney 80 Loose
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