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Amil04 447 posts |
Edited Apr 18, 2020, 16:52
Apr 18, 2020, 14:53
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Please give this a watch https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjV17vtj_LoAhXPilwKHVfPAscQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.richplanet.net%2Frichp_genre.php%3Fref%3D282%26part%3D1%26gen%3D99&usg=AOvVaw0l3ZlI7YUHT9w3gnJ799P- Bill Gates..et al
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Amil04 447 posts |
Apr 19, 2020, 06:54
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Dr. Bhakdi is a specialist in microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history. On Peter Hitchens’ Blog[83], he is quoted thus: “We are afraid that 1 million infections with the new virus will lead to 30 deaths per day over the next 100 days. But we do not realize that 20, 30, 40 or 100 patients positive for normal Corona viruses are already dying every day. [The government’s anti-COVID-19 measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous […] The life expectancy of millions is being shortened. The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients in need are reduced, operations canceled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All this will impact profoundly on our whole society. All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.” Dr Peter Goetzsche is Professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis at the University of Copenhagen and founder of the Cochrane Medical Collaboration. He has written several books on corruption in the field of medicine and the power of big pharmaceutical companies. “Our main problem is that no one will ever get in trouble for measures that are too draconian. They will only get in trouble if they do too little. So, our politicians and those working with public health do much more than they should do. No such draconian measures were applied during the 2009 influenza pandemic, and they obviously cannot be applied every winter, which is all year round, as it is always winter somewhere. We cannot close down the whole world permanently. Should it turn out that the epidemic wanes before long, there will be a queue of people wanting to take credit for this. And we can be damned sure draconian measures will be applied again next time. But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!” “Corona: an epidemic of mass panic”, blog post on Deadly Medicines 21st March 2020 From http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/THE-COVID-19-Pandemic-Challenging-the-Narrative.pdf
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 19, 2020, 15:51
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What can we do? Believe him or believe those who say he is wrong? It certainly seems he is partly right - there'll be a huge health penalty as a result of the economies being ruined and because of failure to treat millions of non-Covid patients, as I know all too well. But on the other hand, Trump would say he's right and we must all go back to work. That's particularly unpersuasive.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 19, 2020, 16:11
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BTW, the opposite of draconian: my local Health care Trust at Cheltenham has had 106 Covid deaths, more than twice the number of any other West Country trusts. No prizes for guessing why.
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Amil04 447 posts |
Edited Apr 19, 2020, 19:41
Apr 19, 2020, 19:34
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It’s a terrible situation for sure. In my area in a hospital that serves a population of roughly 100,000 there had been 15 reported related fatalities as of just over a week ago. That was info from a district nurse. I guess it’s more now. I think both things I’ve posted do raise some important points. I will say though I feel uncomfortable watching Richard D Hall sometimes went he starts taking the piss “how can you not see this” type rants. He goes too far with that. Johnson I find a bit more measured.. I’m sure he helped put together all the info on Bill Gates. I think Johnson’s wife is a district nurse in the Derby area..(not the same one!) It’s very difficult to get past ‘stay in, save life’s’ Makes sense? Surely? In Victorian times sick people would have been sent to isolation hospitals. Looking at old maps of my area I can see many of them. That’s the usual way isn’t it? What happened to them? I’m not sure I like the look of the protests and who’s egging them on in the USA. Especially the gun carrying states. It just might be a set up..what they’re waiting for. Then the army is on the streets. As people say if you want to discredit a cause..defend it badly, or get some nut job to to do it. Controlled opposition? I occasionally chat with people in queues but to no real avail and really..do I want to identify myself as a some sort of covid non believer? These are my neighbours..it’s potentially another great divider of the country into he same way as..that other thing..god damn. There’s certainly something a foot. This isn’t a spontaneous happening. Best of health, and to all.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 19, 2020, 20:59
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"In Victorian times sick people would have been sent to isolation hospitals. Looking at old maps of my area I can see many of them. That’s the usual way isn’t it? What happened to them?" More recently than that. My Dad had TB in the fifties and was sent to a place in Worcestershire that looked like tiers of cricket pavilions with open fronts, really cold, on the basis that fresh air was the best hope. Which it probably was then. Now 70 years later we have a plague where all we have is the same thing.
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Amil04 447 posts |
Edited Apr 19, 2020, 21:47
Apr 19, 2020, 21:21
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“..where all we have is the same thing..” Kinda.. And yet this has been listed as the greatest threat for years! “It will happen” Where’s the preparation then!” If your fire is going to go out you go get wood. I’ve got the image of UEA campus in my mind with your description of tiered buildings.. I’m also reminded of some of the stories told by my parents of when they were ill as children. Paltises etc..laudanum..however in some ways they maybe knew more then than they do now. Many simple cures I’m sure got pushed aside because of the age old desire for profit. I asked my mother whether she ever remembered her parents talking about the Spanish flu. “No..never” Her father was posted in India during WW1. We know for a fact through photos of memorials he took there people were dying of influenza but it seems to be an event that’s only really been covered in more recent years. Some would question the extent of that pandemic. Numbers vary wildly. It’s been put forward that it’s been vastly exaggerated to serve as a ‘warning’ about what might happened..therefore draconian measures. I’ve been taking local walks mainly but the other day I took a ten minute drive and an hour walk and boy did it feel good out into open space and big sky. Half the people I see out and about are 60 plus. Good for them.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 20, 2020, 02:58
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Yes, the relaxation of rules has made a massive difference to me. Greenery works!
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 21, 2020, 17:40
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Now it's 143
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