Squid Tempest
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Re: WTF?
Mar 16, 2011, 16:13
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I disagree. I refuse to be a party to bequeathing a nuclear (and therefor almost certainly radioactive) future to my grand children. whatever the cost in financial terms, it can never be worth it.
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MrsSevenrealm
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Re: WTF?
Mar 16, 2011, 21:23
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At this rate I won't be around long enough to have grandchildren.
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jshell
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Re: WTF?
Mar 17, 2011, 07:58
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It's a bit late for that in my opinion. We now need a reliable energy source to bridge the gap between what we have now and the newly developing renewables.
We know for a fact that wind power is not reliable, it was proven during the last cold spell when it was running at 5% efficiency.
Until we have enough reliable renewable base supply then we cannot simply ignore nuclear or fossil - lest we start killing the elderly/sick/poor/infirm each winter....
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MrsSevenrealm
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Re: WTF?
Mar 17, 2011, 09:18
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jshell wrote: It's a bit late for that in my opinion. We now need a reliable energy source to bridge the gap between what we have now and the newly developing renewables.
We know for a fact that wind power is not reliable, it was proven during the last cold spell when it was running at 5% efficiency.
Until we have enough reliable renewable base supply then we cannot simply ignore nuclear or fossil - lest we start killing the elderly/sick/poor/infirm each winter....
I thought we'd already started some time ago.
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PMM
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Re: WTF?
Mar 17, 2011, 23:11
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Well, I'm happy to admit, I'm no expert on this subject.
My first teenage forays into politics and activism were through CND, but while the moral case against nuclear weapons seemed straightforward, the case against nuclear power seemed less clear cut.
I'm aware of the arguments, but nuclear power does at least have a positive social use to balance against the bad stuff.
Anyway, as I say, I'm no expert, so I rely on the arguments of those who's opinions I value, or who's writing makes sense to me.
So I'm in a quandary. Now we can add George Monbiot's name to those of James Lovelock and Mark Lynas in suggesting that nukes may have some role to play in helping to avoid environmental meltdown, if you'll excuse the pun. His support contains qualifiers that address many of the points you raise in the u-know article.
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jshell
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Re: WTF?
Mar 22, 2011, 14:14
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Wow! Monbiot in 'common sense shocka!'.
That'll have the eco-anarchists spinning!
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Stevo
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Re: WTF?
Mar 23, 2011, 11:33
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just trying to work out chronology, if developments in Japan had happened only after this thread was started.
Do seriously hope some lessons are learned from that. Though it will probably be solely don't build a nuclear power plant on ACTIVELY unstable ground, if the Gulf of Mexico is anything to go by.
Stevo
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ratcni01
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Re: WTF?
Mar 24, 2011, 12:06
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Why would it have me spinning? Evidence based practice not politics!
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