"this request is out of genuine interest cos it's a position i don't understand and i would like to hear the other side of the argument. "
That's bollocks.
Like every other thread you've started on HH forums, you've stuck in a statement that you know will generate heated responses and stood back. You had your position sorted from the off and couldn't give a toss about any arguments from other angles.
You're real useful, BSSM Steiner. Thanks.
And no, I'm not going to read any reply you make. Say hello to Lemon when you see him.
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