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Monganaut 2375 posts |
Apr 14, 2019, 20:20
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Sure you've all seen this, but if not, allegedly oldest shipwreck found off coast of Turkey, apparently lost in a storm. https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/oldest-shipwreck-0011739
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Zariadris 286 posts |
Edited Apr 15, 2019, 16:20
Apr 15, 2019, 16:20
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Monganaut, Thank you, as always, for sharing these reports. This and the previous about the prehistoric pooch are fascinating. Really appreciate it. Been reading Burl's Stonehenge recently, where he talks about how the first farmers came over to Britain in the 5th millennium crossing the English channel, and what a perilous trek that must have been, making one wonder what inspired such a risk. Indeed, the recent reports on the spread of megalithic culture along the Atlantic coast by boat underlines what fearless seafarers these men and women were. And I've often wondered about how on earth the first people settled Easter Island - a blip in a vast ocean far from the mainland. Anyway, good idea the discoverers have of not revealing the site of the Bronze Age shipwreck so as to preserve its cargo for a museum.
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Monganaut 2375 posts |
Apr 15, 2019, 17:32
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I'll keep posting them if you keep reading them :) No doubt our forebears were intrepid adventurers, they certainly knew the thrill of discovering new territory's. Must have been a little easier in the warm waters of the med etc....Not sure what made em' tramp North into the cold waters of the Atlanic and German ocean, maybe they heard stories from earlier travelers about uninhabited lands to the West. What fascinates me is that it looks like they settled Northern and Western UK territory first, rather than the warmer more settles South. Then again, I've heard that Orkney is closer to Norway than London, so maybe I've answered my own question there. There was a TV programme with Neil Oliver when they set out to test the sea worthiness of a Bronze Age boat from Orkney to the mainland...turns out it was pretty good, much like the later Viking ships, it flexed with the waters movement, rather than having a rigid keel like modern boats. It's here (if you can watch it) along with two other shwos about Orkney. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088pnv1 Direct link...https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b088pnv1/britains-ancient-capital-secrets-of-orkney-episode-2
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Zariadris 286 posts |
Apr 16, 2019, 20:04
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Hey thanks a lot man. I tried to watch those films, signed up on the site and everything, only to discover that you have to be in the UK to do so. Bummer.
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Monganaut 2375 posts |
Apr 16, 2019, 22:58
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Thought that might be the case. Try this link on Vimeo... https://vimeo.com/222586450
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Zariadris 286 posts |
Edited Apr 17, 2019, 12:50
Apr 17, 2019, 12:50
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Monganaut wrote: Thought that might be the case. Try this link on Vimeo... https://vimeo.com/222586450 Monganaut - cheers!! I watched it: it's brilliant. So well made and endlessly interesting. How thrilling to see these landscapes and sites which I've only read about or seen in photographs. Just great. I'm off now to listen to Orcadia and Black Sheep VC making their inspired noises in the Tomb of Eagles...
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Apr 17, 2019, 21:07
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Zariadris wrote: Been reading Burl's Stonehenge recently, where he talks about how the first farmers came over to Britain in the 5th millennium crossing the English channel, and what a perilous trek that must have been, making one wonder what inspired such a risk. Indeed, the recent reports on the spread of megalithic culture along the Atlantic coast by boat underlines what fearless seafarers these men and women were. I think some of the Channel-Hopping, Doggerland and ancient settlement and migration evidence has kinda overtaken Burl a bit recently. The first settlers weren't seafarers. They walked dryshod across what is now the North Sea. They followed herds of migratory reindeer. Late Upper Paleolithic 14,000 years ago. Walked from Northern Germany. http://www.archaeopress.com/ArchaeopressShop/Public/download.asp?id={F70B0E82-8EC0-4A15-8E8A-C9CE826C2AF8} I'm talking Southern Scotland here (Southern England would have been earlier). No North Sea and a wide navigable river for the English Channel. Evidence of settlement from Mesolithic through to Neolithic and Bronze Age on sites like this. Suggestions of very early farming here (as featured on Digging For Britain) http://217.199.187.196/biggararchaeology.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DAER_MAINREP_FINAL.pdf
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Apr 17, 2019, 21:08
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Zariadris wrote: Been reading Burl's Stonehenge recently, where he talks about how the first farmers came over to Britain in the 5th millennium crossing the English channel, and what a perilous trek that must have been, making one wonder what inspired such a risk. Indeed, the recent reports on the spread of megalithic culture along the Atlantic coast by boat underlines what fearless seafarers these men and women were. I think some of the Channel-Hopping, Doggerland and ancient settlement and migration evidence has kinda overtaken Burl a bit recently. The first settlers weren't seafarers. They walked dryshod across what is now the North Sea. They followed herds of migratory reindeer. Late Upper Paleolithic 14,000 years ago. Walked from Northern Germany. http://www.archaeopress.com/ArchaeopressShop/Public/displayProductDetail.asp?id={4ED1A69D-996A-4D30-A92A-5FC7CFD6099F} I'm talking Southern Scotland here (Southern England would have been earlier). No North Sea and a wide navigable river for the English Channel. Evidence of settlement from Mesolithic through to Neolithic and Bronze Age on sites like this. Suggestions of very early farming here (as featured on Digging For Britain) http://217.199.187.196/biggararchaeology.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DAER_MAINREP_FINAL.pdf
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Monganaut 2375 posts |
Edited Apr 19, 2019, 03:09
Apr 18, 2019, 17:49
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Cool, glad you enjoyed it. Did you catch the other two episodes? think the link had the others in the sidebar. Some other ancient history programmes you may enjoy... History of Ancient Britain (Neil Oliver) 1. Ice Age https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5qqlcr 2. Age Of Ancestors https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vke68 3. Age of Cosmology https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n0stl 4. Age Of Bronze https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n5jwy Britain BC (Francis Pryor) 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lloKT-oS29I 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1TpNzcXcY Face Of Britain 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLV63ip7pdI 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge16y6v-3lM Scotland : Documentary on The History of Scotland Before it was Scotland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbwg0j-6Jsk
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Zariadris 286 posts |
Apr 19, 2019, 19:25
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Thank you for this cornucopia Monganaut. You can be sure I'll be watching them all.
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