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Fresher wheat .
Nov 08, 2015, 17:12
This was the one Gaffney associated press "study" that didn't have an obvious problem ,apart form it being very unliikely , now it looks like this one has hit the buffers , like all the others . Will it stop further outlandish mistaken headlines from the team in the future ? , I doubt it .


http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-dna-dispute-raises-questions-about-wheat-trade-in-prehistoric-britain-1.18702
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 09, 2015, 17:22
Almost a relief!
But there was always a high level of scepticism about these findings wasn't there?
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 09, 2015, 17:35
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Almost a relief!
But there was always a high level of scepticism about these findings wasn't there?


Lol .
Yes .
Partly because of the findings , but the source rang alarm bells , loudly .
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 09, 2015, 20:38
It's worth posting these again. Classic stuff.

Professor Gaffney :

"It now seems likely that other ceremonial monuments in the surrounding landscape were directly articulated with rituals at Stonehenge. It is possible that processions within the Cursus moved from the eastern pit at sunrise, continuing eastwards along the Cursus and, following the path of the sun overhead, and perhaps back to the west, reaching the western pit at sunset to mark the longest day of the year. Observers of the ceremony would have been positioned at the Heel Stone, of which the two pits are aligned.”

Dr Henry Chapman, Senior Lecturer in Archaeology and Visualisation observes:

“If you measure the walking distance between the two pits, the procession would reach exactly half-way at midday, when the sun would be directly on top of Stonehenge. This is more than just a coincidence, indicating that the exact length of the Cursus and the positioning of the pits are of significance.”
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 10, 2015, 00:33
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
It's worth posting these again. Classic stuff.

Professor Gaffney :

"It now seems likely that other ceremonial monuments in the surrounding landscape were directly articulated with rituals at Stonehenge. It is possible that processions within the Cursus moved from the eastern pit at sunrise, continuing eastwards along the Cursus and, following the path of the sun overhead, and perhaps back to the west, reaching the western pit at sunset to mark the longest day of the year. Observers of the ceremony would have been positioned at the Heel Stone, of which the two pits are aligned.”

Dr Henry Chapman, Senior Lecturer in Archaeology and Visualisation observes:

“If you measure the walking distance between the two pits, the procession would reach exactly half-way at midday, when the sun would be directly on top of Stonehenge. This is more than just a coincidence, indicating that the exact length of the Cursus and the positioning of the pits are of significance.”



It's brilliant not only do they make clear errors , the logic is hilarious .Start at one end at sumer solstcie sunrise and reach the middle at midday , not horses but tortoise races for the cursus eh ?

The Warren Fields discovery of the Meso pits which are interpreted as the "beginning of time " and “in some ways represents the start of history “ are also up there with the best , but it's not some alt nut , it's a pro archie , no wonder the nuts think they can get away with anything .
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 10, 2015, 09:28
Then there is the more recent “This is archaeology on steroids.” and “We presume it to be a ritual arena of some sort,” related to the putative stones under the bank at Durrington Walls .
According to MPP he had excavated there a decade ago and found post holes capped in chalk . Can they both be wrong ? , I wouldn't doubt it .
nigelswift
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 10, 2015, 10:27
tiompan wrote:
post holes capped in chalk



How's that work then?
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 10, 2015, 11:18
nigelswift wrote:
tiompan wrote:
post holes capped in chalk



How's that work then?




The quote was "He (MPP) said that a decade ago, he excavated some of those locations and found post holes that had been capped with cemented chalk. The radar reflections had bounced off the chalk blocks, " .There was no indication of when he believed the capping took place .
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 10, 2015, 13:27
tiompan wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
tiompan wrote:
post holes capped in chalk



How's that work then?




The quote was "He (MPP) said that a decade ago, he excavated some of those locations and found post holes that had been capped with cemented chalk. The radar reflections had bounced off the chalk blocks, " .There was no indication of when he believed the capping took place .


Very interesting indeed.
nigelswift
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Re: Fresher wheat .
Nov 11, 2015, 14:22
Ah yes, here it is being said more recently about Durrington's "buried stones" .....

"He said that a decade ago, he excavated some of those locations and found post holes that had been capped with cemented chalk. The radar reflections had bounced off the chalk blocks, he said.

“The smart money is that the stones are not actually stones,” Dr. Parker Pearson said. He said he and Dr. Gaffney had discussed their differing interpretations. “We’ll dig a hole next year to resolve the issue once and for all,” he said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/science/stonehenge-begins-to-yield-its-secrets.html?action=click&contentCollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&_r=0
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