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stonefree
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Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:00
Resonox wrote:
A lot is being made of the "hole"...one poster, in the other thread alluded to it being for the erection of a maypole(yes I know it was a tongue in cheek remark)...but it might not be that far off the mark....perhaps(and only perhaps) the hole was used as an aid to building....by inserting a sturdy lever-style piece of wood(this could explain what was described as a "squircle" too as this would give a good grip of a piece of timber) for aiding in raising the slab and moving it into and holding it in position until the wall structure was fully stabilised...has anyone considered a simplistic theory??


Here's a link to my earlier post about this:
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/forum/?thread=62372&message=792944
stonefree
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Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:03
cerrig wrote:
Hi stonefree, I wonder if you could tell me the date that the photograph of the midday shadow was taken. I am very interested in that part of your investigations.


Here's a link to my earlier post regarding dates:
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/forum/?thread=62372&message=792946
cerrig
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Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:06
Thanks for that. Do you have any thoughts as to why it might have been important to mark the time of solar noon?
stonefree
68 posts

Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:19
StoneGloves wrote:
Don't mess with your eyes or your persistence of vision will be about ten minutes. Get some welding glasses and be strict about using them. Otherwise you are risking blindness both temporary and permanent.

The problem with this kind of 'truism' is that it's only a guide. Our eyes, the muscles that control them, and indeed the entire visual cortex, all respond to being exercised. As long as you don't try too much too soon, you can train your focussing capability and increase or decrease the sensitivity of your rod and cone light receptors for day and night vision!


You may be imputing greater skills than the makers possessed. Perhaps the intention of the aperture was simply to illuminate an object inside the vault on a certain day, or range of days. This might have been a carved stone or wooden object. For instance. Similar effects were generated at places such as Maes Howe. A sundial/calendrical calculator would have been more easily constructed in tree and the Quoit will probably have had a more ceremonial/magical function. Perhaps it was where a great leader contemplated a special sunrise or something similar.



Presumably you're talking about the capstone aperture? It's on the 'outside' of the structure, so it never actually illuminates the interior.

The whole question of ceremonial/ritual/magical functions is fascinating, but requires rather a big leap of faith and imagination! ;)
drewbhoy
drewbhoy
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Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:41
Thit Like? I'm a Turra loon, somewhere north of everywhere, and all of these affa big words are to much for a loon like me to unnerstan. My heid is fair bizzin and canna tak in athing. When I read summat sturdy was gan in a hole my heid jist aboot dirled roon an roon I wis all a futter. I thocht thit di we hiv here. We can a be wrang! Bit I hiv my ain theory tho. Noo I've hid a few gulshies already the nicht so my spelling might be a dither. I think it wis a desk at an ootdoor squeel for lankie loons like mysel and the hole was used for an ink well. Ye ken the stuff we used to write we. But I see the cheer his been pinched. Must go, my coal powered computer is rinning oot a stem. Cheerie!
stonefree
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Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:43
[quote="StoneGloves"]What they're seeing is lens flare. Part of the eye is a lens, after all. Shame really, as I thought they were on to something. Still no measurement of the aperture, anything but ...


The 'lens flare' you're talking about, whilst extremely common with cameras whose lenses are comprised of multiple glass elements, does not occur with the Mk I human eyeball, being a single, perfect, organic lens!

The capstone aperture is extremely difficult to 'measure'. It has a complex 3 dimensional, assymetric profile. I have produced engineering drawings in the past, using isometric and orthographic projection views, but these require specialist measuring instruments such as internal micrometers or at least a range of external and internal calipers. It depends what you want to do with the information really. If necessary one could hire the services of a measurement specialist for around £100/hour.
stonefree
68 posts

Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 21:45
Hahaha - love it!
Horsedrawn
55 posts

Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 22:48
I shall go and measure the aperture this weekend.
In the meantime I think correspondents would do well to bear in mind what the editor says about terms and conditions. There is a rectangle 'carved' on the south side of stone 8 with clearly delineated corners, and this is ten inches by twelve.
There are others. I am surprised at the lack of comments regarding the 'figurative carvings' on the interior of stone 6. What are they?

David Kane.
stonefree
68 posts

Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 23:16
Not specifically as yet, although I've been musing on the possibility that the Sun's rays through the capstone aperture might have enabled them to track the Analemmic and thereby reveal the Earth's axial wobble. This would require some kind of marks being made regularly at the same time each day.
cerrig
187 posts

Re: A clean slate? (or should that be granite?)
May 05, 2011, 23:25
Can you measure the carved rectangle again please, being very careful as to accuracy. It may be important, at least to me anyway.
Also, do you have any thoughts as to the reason for marking the time of solar noon? Why would this have been important?
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