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Mr Hamhead 1020 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 12:57
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This is all getting very silly... Everybody has a right to an opinion...we will probably never know why the quoit was built..or why stone circles are built...or stone rows or Silbury...But we all have our own ideas or are happy to believe in what others say. Having met Dave and Stone yesterday I am far from convinced but realize that there convictions are strong...and who am I to say they are wrong? I am worried by Sanctuary's news that the stone is leaning...but again not convinced! People have been climbing on the quoit for millenia...I don't think we need to worry about it falling, I am more worried that if we start drawing attention to it that the land owner will close the field for fear of being responsible if anyone should be hurt. Lets all settle down and beg to differ...the quoit ain't going knowhere...but I would like to be able to visit it in the future without railings around it. Mr H
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 13:07
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Mr Hamhead wrote: This is all getting very silly... Everybody has a right to an opinion...we will probably never know why the quoit was built..or why stone circles are built...or stone rows or Silbury...But we all have our own ideas or are happy to believe in what others say. Having met Dave and Stone yesterday I am far from convinced but realize that there convictions are strong...and who am I to say they are wrong? I am worried by Sanctuary's news that the stone is leaning...but again not convinced! People have been climbing on the quoit for millenia...I don't think we need to worry about it falling, I am more worried that if we start drawing attention to it that the land owner will close the field for fear of being responsible if anyone should be hurt. Lets all settle down and beg to differ...the quoit ain't going knowhere...but I would like to be able to visit it in the future without railings around it. Mr H Hi Mr H. The stone is leaning you surely can't deny that as it's obvious, but was it always leaning and just got a bit worse is the real question? I doubt that but it will take further periodic measurements to determine that. As I said in an earlier post I wasn't trying to be alarmist, just pointing out a fact that I cannot hide from and don't wish to.
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postman 848 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 16:00
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I don't feel at all qualified to say much on this subject, Ive only been to Trethevy once and that was a few years ago, nor do I know a great deal about archaeology or arcaeoastronomy(just what ive seen on tv and in the few books ive been able to afford). But some things I do know, if you stare long enough at something you will see what your looking for, in all aspects of life. You said in one post that you stayed on site for four days, and that the stones speak in a language were only now decoding, may I suggest that the lanuage being spoken is Gobbledy-gook and the message is gibberish, four days on site would be almost a torture, no wonder your beginning to see things in the stones. Although ive been to Trethevy once, ive been to many other portal tombs, all over the place, and know one when I see one, and owing to a healthy interest in pyramids and dare I say it Atlantis, I know a pyramidiot when I here one. Of course we dont have pyramids (Silbury wont argue there) but it's never long before someone starts using stone circles or a burial chamber of some sort to make our ancient ancestors seem more incredible than they really were, Yes they did erect these wonderful monuments, and they may have encoded alignments into some of them, but they did so from a scared little animal point of view. Scared that they couldnt control everything around them, scared of what if anything came after our playtime here. I'm sorry in the extreme if this sounds negative, but I dont hold a lot of faith in the extraordinary, no matter how hard I look for it the world stays obstinately ordinary, and I fear this will all blow over very quickly, like grinding corn on a trilithon. Keep looking though, I am, just not too too hard
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Mr Hamhead 1020 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 16:16
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Whatever happened to the Stonehenge Windmill theory?
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postman 848 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 17:00
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Mr Hamhead wrote: Whatever happened to the Stonehenge Windmill theory? I can only hazzard a guess, sorry
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 17:25
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postman wrote: I don't feel at all qualified to say much on this subject, Ive only been to Trethevy once and that was a few years ago, nor do I know a great deal about archaeology or arcaeoastronomy(just what ive seen on tv and in the few books ive been able to afford). But some things I do know, if you stare long enough at something you will see what your looking for, in all aspects of life. You said in one post that you stayed on site for four days, and that the stones speak in a language were only now decoding, may I suggest that the lanuage being spoken is Gobbledy-gook and the message is gibberish, four days on site would be almost a torture, no wonder your beginning to see things in the stones. Wasn't me that said tht Postie!!
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StoneGloves 1149 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 18:11
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I don't think I've ever seen a Portal Tomb. I do know that staying on site doesn't add to clarity. That comes from learning abstract facts and then applying them to a site, or event. I do know that when you find stuff that people will appear out of the woodwork to proclaim you as deluded, mistaken, or worse. I also know that an old gadgee found some very interesting things looking at the shadows cast by Cumbrian circles around the calendar days. Shadows are so ephemeral and not 'scientific'. I also know that stone structures can appear to be unstable for years and then topple or fall, seemingly at random, when there's a deluge or a fast thaw (a stonemason has his ears wide open for the the scrapy rumble that presages collapse and gets out of the way fast). You don't mess with gravity! But where are the measurements of the squircle? I know of an animal called the squirrcodile - found in the Ohio wetlands - quite a shy creature, scampers amongst trees, but with a prehensile tail and a double row of razor-sharp incisors.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 18:21
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StoneGloves wrote: I do know that when you find stuff that people will appear out of the woodwork to proclaim you as deluded, mistaken, or worse. The reactions are usually based on the quality of the evidence . Plenty "stuff " gets found on a regular basis and people can judge for themselves , when it is obviously genuine or the interpretation is reasonable you tend not hear these complaints .
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thesweetcheat 6218 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 18:23
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postman wrote: But some things I do know, if you stare long enough at something you will see what your looking for, in all aspects of life. You said in one post that you stayed on site for four days, and that the stones speak in a language were only now decoding, may I suggest that the lanuage being spoken is Gobbledy-gook and the message is gibberish, four days on site would be almost a torture, no wonder your beginning to see things in the stones. :-D
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moss 2897 posts |
Apr 25, 2011, 18:28
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Mr Hamhead wrote: Whatever happened to the Stonehenge Windmill theory? I had to write and apologise to him because of you lot, he was a very nice American, though slightly wayout with his theory ;) There was also the 'teeth of Stonehenge' person, Denke or something, I suspect he was a trickster having a joke, but there again perfectly polite. The truth about speculation and theory is that you don't know anything till you've tried the experiment. Haven't actually followed the threads but I do have print of Trevethy above my computer, flanked on either side by the Cove at Avebury and Stanton Drew stones, both equally mysterious....
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