Wotan
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Chronology
Feb 14, 2002, 17:27
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To save me hunting, is there a definitive reference which gives rough comparative timescales ?
Just so I can make a visual reference for contemporaneous sites.
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FourWinds
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Re: Chronology
Feb 14, 2002, 17:30
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What exactly you after? A nice big time line saying this site was built then, that one was built then .... etc?
If so I have quite a good one somewhere and I'll try to dig it out. Obviously it's not all encompassing but it's good for reference.
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Wotan
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Re: Chronology
Feb 14, 2002, 21:25
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4- that would be cool. Its to give me an idea of what was built at the same time, so I can make myself a map of where everything is, time-wise. Any info you have would be very appreciated!
ta, W
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caergog
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Re: Chronology
Feb 14, 2002, 21:41
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If you find one let me know I get everything all topsy turvy and mixed up in my mind, it all blurs in to one and i get my names and ages all confused.
A nice time line that i could stick on my wall and put things in perspective would be very helpful!
love
caroline x
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Wotan
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Re: Chronology
Feb 16, 2002, 08:23
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precisely - it'll help figuring out who built what and when. As soon as I get something drawn up, i'll post.
W
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Wotan
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Re: Any joy
Feb 16, 2002, 16:45
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Hey Fourwinds, any luck with the timescale you mentioned?
TA, W
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FourWinds
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Re: Any joy
Feb 16, 2002, 19:34
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I had a little scout around last night (that sounds terrible!) and found nothing.
I was out up the top of my local mountain taking in some beautiful scenery this afternoon and I'm off out again tomorrow so it'll probably be Monday night before I get chance to look proper.
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Wotan
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Re: little scout
Feb 16, 2002, 20:53
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di you meet him on top of the mountain? No problem, when we're dealing with millenial timescales, a couple of days is nothing!
Found dead basic one showing comparative levels of civilisation in the far east etc, but its pretty crap.
I want something I can use to map individual sites to give or take a few hundred years!
Ta, and thanks for looking!
W
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Telepathine
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Re: Chronology
Feb 17, 2002, 17:08
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I have a book called Stonehenge - Mysteries Of The Stones and Landscape by David Souden which is published by English Heritage. It has a 'rough' timeline on pages 18-19. You might be able to turn up a copy in your local library. It' isn't definative, but it covers most of the period of 'monument' building from the Early Neolithic to the Iron Age. Though the dates are all in relation, and roughly corresponding to the books subject matter (Stonehenge). So you have longbarrows - 4200-3200 BC etc, though it does get a little more specific about Stonehenge and environs, eg. Robin Hoods Ball 4000-3600BC, Woodhenge 2350-2000BC etc. The Aubrey Burl book i'm sending you does have a VERY basic site chronology on the first page or so. Failing that, the Channel 4 Timeteam page have a sort of timeline in relation to the sites they have covered. Hope that helps.
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Annexus Quam
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Re: Chronology
Feb 17, 2002, 19:17
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I didn't quite get what kind of chronology you were after; dates vary from area to area as well as interlap, so it's a bit mad to try and get it all together in a comprehensive scheme. Then it also varies even more from country to country, with many of the Breton and Portuguese megaliths claiming to be the oldest (4,500 BC)
Here's some examples of BCE dates for constructions in the UK and Eire:
First thing to know is that long barrows are the oldest (4-3000), mostly collective, round barrows are later Bronze age individual (chieftain) tombs (3-2000)
Irish wedge tombs date between 2000 and 1000 (apparently) as well as any other cremation cemetery (cremation was a later Ur-Celtic introduction)
As for other monuments...
Causeways are the oldest (4000-3000) closely followed by cursuses, then timber henges and stone circles between 3000 and 2000 (stonehenge being a clear example of a later Bronze Age development)
If you don't know it already, hillforts are Celtic fortifications, therefore very late constructions (after 1,300)
Basically, changes were gradual but a deterioration of the climate caused war and famine galore at times in the Celtic Iron Age in many overpopulated areas.
The Neolithic roughly coincides with the Megalithic, and the gradual introduction of agriculture or the creation of mixed communities began in earnest.
Paleolithic=before farming. Before the British Isles were isles.
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