Amil04
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Alan Watts
Jan 23, 2021, 19:51
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Here’s to Alan Watts
https://youtu.be/3vv0363gLr8
It must be his birthday or something soon..
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jb lamptoast-morsley
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Re: Alan Watts
Jan 24, 2021, 18:26
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Can't make my mind up about the chap. Certainly plenty of insight and a bit of a forerunner in the soaking up of eastern perspectives for the western world in the 50's/60's. I still have my reservations however about his self appointed wise man schtick
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Hunter T Wolfe
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Re: Alan Watts
Jan 26, 2021, 15:51
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I'm very fond of Alan Watts, flaws and all. My friends made this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_2On6J5wk
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Amil04
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Re: Alan Watts
Jan 28, 2021, 20:41
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Fantastic, tell you friends how I laughed!
That must have took some doing. If that was a first take I’d be amazed. (My guess is they were watching the video under the table..sshhhh!!)
I think Alan Watts in later life might have become aware he was in some way being ‘used’..in bringing the east over to the west. May be he thought he’d played an unwitting part in..well..I’ll let the reader think about that.
He was a forerunner indeed. Although it’s some decades since I first read some of his books it’s only relatively recently I became aware of how young he was when he died.
A life very uniquely lived me thinks.
I mean ‘that old hippie revolution’..there’s a whole load more to that when one digs a little deeper..
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jb lamptoast-morsley
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Re: Alan Watts
Jan 28, 2021, 22:07
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Amil04 wrote:
I mean ‘that old hippie revolution’..there’s a whole load more to that when one digs a little deeper..
care to divulge a little bit more?
Can't remember if I've read any Watts - maybe some book on Zen? What do you recommend? Anyway it is more how he incessantly pops up in my Youtube feed that gets me!
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Amil04
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Edited Jan 29, 2021, 21:21
Re: Alan Watts
Jan 29, 2021, 17:47
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I’ll see if I can find any links that are short and concise. For now, I always understood it to be a grass roots spontaneous ‘flowering’ alas I see the root as planned social engineering..which might sound a bit odd. But why was the CIA both prominent in the production and supply hallucinogens? Turn on tune in drop out..hmm sounded good when I was twenty but now I see it’s as ‘go into your own little world we’ll feed you all sorts of pleasures just mind your own business and we’ll just carry on destroying humanity as we know it.
Pied piperesque.
Some excellent music came out of it it has to be said, arts writing etc...but did it change humanity fundamentally? No. No ideology will. Only a change of heart in every individual. That will fundamentally change the world. It has to come from inside out. Not imposed upon from the outside. We all have to ‘see’ the same thing..not choose if to see this or that but what is. And one can only do that if your not tied to a post like some animal, to some ideology or other. It’s moment by moment.
Anyway..haha..(in a throaty Alan Watts way)
Were was I
Books..
Top of my head ..
‘The wisdom of insecurity’
‘The taboo of knowing who you are’...for the young.
‘The Watercourse way’ draws from Taoism.
‘Beyond Theology’ an early one
It’s funny in this day and age to be able to see him in film speaking!
So for what ends was the sixties/seventies social engineering all about?
I mean they had them all thinking they were rebels but they’d fallen directly into the trap.
Gross over generalisation there..!
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