moss
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 08, 2008, 14:48
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http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2008/08/07/hypocrites-unite/
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magiceye
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 09, 2008, 16:59
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Quite!
Ms Burchill wears a very public bag of chips on each shoulder and obviously takes way too much salt with them. A pity, cos she is one of the most readable "commentators" around.
However she is not so much a member of the working class as the sneering class. Her stance as regards so many things is a cop out, more often masked by (admittedly very well written) bluster and attitude. She also patronises and insults the very people she purports to champion. She certainly confuses the working classes (i.e. most of us wage slaves or small self-employed concerns), many of whom are not poor and most of whom are not stupid and are capable of forming their own opinions, with a residual underclass whom we are obviously meant to indulge.
It is also a fact of life that most successful movements rely on people who have the money, time, influence and organisational ability to get their point across over a period of time. Think of the housing and health movement of the 19th century - Chadwick, Shaftsbury, Peabody - whose work ultimately transformed the living conditions of millions of people, but who as far as I am aware didn't work 14 hr factory shifts or needed recourse to the workhouse. I've no doubt they were preachy, condescending and knew what was best for the masses who had not the money, the clout or the time for direct action. So what?
Monbiot is also bang on the money when he says that it's not the likes of him (or Burchill) who will be the first to suffer if the environment does go totally tits up. In this regard Julie and George's money and instinct for self-preservation will render their class allegiences and their differences meaningless.
Time for my medication now.
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Sir John Dunn
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 09, 2008, 17:42
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magiceye wrote: Quite!
Ms Burchill wears a very public bag of chips on each shoulder and obviously takes way too much salt with them. A pity, cos she is one of the most readable "commentators" around.
Yeah. I sort of respected Julie B until I heard her yokel accent. Then it was a case of Get Out Of My Life, Woman!
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Wiggy
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 11, 2008, 10:06
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F*ckin 'ell - you won't be wanting a conversation with me then! =;o)
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Sir John Dunn
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 11, 2008, 18:22
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Wiggy wrote: F*ckin 'ell - you won't be wanting a conversation with me then! =;o)
I wouldn’t put money on it, Wiggy.
Everyone has a regional accent. However, not everyone chooses to talk bullshit with a regional accent.
Hang Julie Burchill now!
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Wiggy
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 12, 2008, 11:05
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I thought it was her "yokel accent" that put you off?! Mine's not quite so strong but you'd know I'm west of Andover.
JB does talk some sh*t (a lot actually), but she does also entertain.
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IanB
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Edited Aug 12, 2008, 15:54
Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 12, 2008, 15:45
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Well yes that would be Julie Burchill the lapsed Stalin apologist. She is in no position to be lecturing anyone about anything.
A classic case of the person who only reads the backs of books. Moron.
Then again she's in the business of justifying six figure fees for her dumb ass columns and publishing advances. To take her even this seriously is just blowing more hot air into Julie's big ass media celeb balloon.
Stick her where she belongs on some graveyard shift local radio phone-in.
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Sir John Dunn
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 20, 2008, 18:08
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Wiggy wrote: west of Andover.
Location of the week!
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Wiggy
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 21, 2008, 10:01
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Ever been? You'd want to get as far west as possible!=;O) (Much as I love The Troggs).
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Sir John Dunn
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Re: Julie Burchll v. Monbiot
Aug 22, 2008, 17:52
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Wiggy wrote: Ever been? You'd want to get as far west as possible!=;O) (Much as I love The Troggs).
Oh aye, I've been there, Wiggy. The Troggs rock!
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