cancer boy
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Re: population
Jul 15, 2004, 10:26
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>Any day now, wars are going to start breaking out to control resources.
Depending on your point of view we've just had one :-o Shame Mel Gibson blew out George Miller over Mad Max 4 so he can make a film about the childhood of Jebus instead, it could have been quite topical.
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Merrick
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Re: possibilities (part 1)
Jul 15, 2004, 10:35
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>I didn't mean to maintain the status quo
Thing is, the private car is simply untenable without oil. But even if theoretically some plant fuel could be found I still think it'd be a waste of the land used to grow the fuel to use it for private cars, or for much of the rest of fuel use (road freighting goods all over that can be produced locally, etc).
>I meant to provide the infrastructure for survival, >especially if this thing happens quickly.
Oil production decreases slowly (an oil field diminishes at about 3% a year). If we decide to stop wasteful use like private cars and passenger planes, and instead use it only for more worthwhile things like fertilisers, farm machinery and emergency services then there's actually fuel for quite a while yet.
>As far as the obliterating land goes, surely this is >an argument for it not against it, as if you had to >obliterate less land
If you mean as a choice between present oil-crops and the theoretical GM one, yes it's less land. But present oil crops are miniscule. The GM would be being grown in addition to all our current food & fibre crops, so it certainly would entail greater cultivation.
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anthonyqkiernan
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Poo-pooing ideas
Jul 15, 2004, 12:12
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3895975.stm
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Ether
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FOCUS magazine article
Jul 15, 2004, 12:31
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There's something in the popular science magazine FOCUS this month about making oil out of dead turkeys, strangely enough :
http://www.focusmag.co.uk
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PMM
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Re: possibilities
Jul 15, 2004, 12:33
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Oh really?
http://www.snopes.com/spoons/legends/toilet.htm
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morfe
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thermal depolymerization
Jul 15, 2004, 18:51
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Hi Ether, funny you shuold mention this article, you may find a discussion of a similar thing (?) on U Know some time back:
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/show.php?show=message&id=144071&9
I like reading Focus magazine, just bagged a job lot from the charity shop 20p each, they are stacked right by the poo-stack in Morfe manor for those long contemplative moments!
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morfe
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wrong link
Jul 15, 2004, 18:53
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http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/show.php?getoffset=Y&subgr=4&exp=14031
That's better
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