Littlestone
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Re: Update 15: (Warning: this post mentions chalk)
Sep 01, 2007, 16:30
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Well said Pilgrim
As English Heritage have now announced that the, "...foam is extremely limited in extent... (with) a light yellow colour, which acts as a marker and ensures that all of this material can be removed..." it would seem that they have at last realised that leaving alien objects in Silbury is unethical.
Perhaps English Heritage would now confirm, either here or on their Silbury Updates webpage, that their plans to leave a time capsule, the 1968 Atkinson/BBC door and lintel, and other alien objects within the structure have now been abandoned.
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Littlestone
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Re: Silbury's structural integrity
Sep 05, 2007, 20:20
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Update 16 is now up.
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Pilgrim
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Edited Sep 05, 2007, 20:31
Update 16 available....
Sep 05, 2007, 20:30
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http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/pdf/Update_16.pdf
Oops! Another void......or is it a crater?
It was clear upon further inspection that material had subsided from beneath this southern edge of the polystyrene infill, and that an area of failed chalk which was left in-situ in 2001 has subsequently collapsed since that date. As a result, a void has been created on the summit, see figure 2. The current volume of this void has been calculated to be in the order of 78m3.
Since that date? Sometime in the last six years? Care to be more precise?
There was no mention of this in Update 11 and subsequent Updates when the plug was being investigated. Wouldn't have something to do with yon digger, would it?
the current void is the result of the disturbances caused by the discovery of the large central void which was created by the progressive collapse of the Merewether and Atkinson tunnels since they were abandoned.
A void caused by a discovery? To me, this is one of two things:
Poor editing / use of English
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A knock-on effect bought about by the recent discovery of the unfilled large central void (left by Atkinson/Merewether) by English Heritage's current conservation programme, which makes me wonder how stable the Poor Bloody Hill is, and how much unnecessary extra damage is being inflicted upon it. Anyone for grouting?
Peace
Pilgrim
X
PS: What exactly is "failed chalk", and how does it come about?
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Littlestone
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Re: Update 16 available....
Sep 06, 2007, 07:32
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What exactly is "failed chalk", and how does it come about?
Well, putting aside the structural/engineering problems for a moment, one thing about Update 16 is blinding clear - it's an exercise in smokescreen reporting. Expressions like, "...support in a cyclical nature." (replacing old tunnel supports for new ones?) "...an area of failed chalk..." (areas where original material have collapsed?) and longwinded, pseudo techno-speak such as, "They are currently considering the potential mechanisms that may have lead to this crater being formed, with a possible hypothesis being that the area beneath the 2000 shaft crater remained in unstable and loose condition, and one (or more) latent voids associated with the 1776 shaft collapse, which were seen during it's (sic) inspection during late 2000, may have remained open or very loosely filled, and that the current void is the result of the disturbances caused by the discovery of the large central void which was created by the progressive collapse of the Merewether and Atkinson tunnels since they were abandoned." Only to be followed by, "The tunnelling works will continue to complete excavating the central zone, and allow backfilling to commence prior to filling the hill-top crate, as per the original programme of works. In the interim, so temporary support measures will be used to ensure the hill-top crater remains stable until it can be safely filled."
Wot!!! This sounds like one of Officer Plod's reports, "While proceeding in a northerly direction milord... " A course in plain English, not to mention clear reporting, is called for here methinks!
As for, "This week saw the closure of the Visitor Information Point as the interpretation officers have other commitments within English Heritage." Mmm... would have thought that as the 'conservation' programme reaches its most critical stage this is the very time when the information point should be open - if not every day then certainly at weekends.
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ocifant
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Re: Update 16 available....
Sep 06, 2007, 08:46
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This week saw the closure of the Visitor
Information Point as the interpretation officers
have other commitments within English
Heritage. We would like to thank them for all
their hard work over the last 16 weeks.
Indeed, they've been a 'mine' (sorry!) of information whilst there.
I have to question though:
a) what is more important than the Hill at the moment?
b) what is more important than keeping the public who ultimately pay their wages (through taxation), informaed at to what's going on?
The cynic/conspiritalist in me suggests that maybe they were being too helpful, and have paid the price for some sort of 'information crime' ?
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Pete G
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Re: Update 16 available....
Sep 07, 2007, 14:47
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ocifant wrote: [quote]
The cynic/conspiritalist in me suggests that maybe they were being too helpful, and have paid the price for some sort of 'information crime' ?
Did you ever consider that the center was only due to be there until the end of August and that the girls running it had others jobs to go to?
Keeping it open and hiring extra people to train up and staff the site would have been a waste of money that is better spent on the hill itself...
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moss
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Edited Sep 12, 2007, 16:09
Re: Silbury's structural integrity
Sep 12, 2007, 16:09
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Update 17 has arrived........
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/pdf/Silbury_Hill_web_update_17.pdf
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Littlestone
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Re: Silbury's structural integrity
Sep 19, 2007, 13:00
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Update 18 is out http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.17511
Looks like English Heritage have come to their senses over the time capsule idea as this will now, "...be placed in the Alexander Keiller Museum in Avebury alongside the contents of Dean Merewether's time capsule and that of Richard Atkinson..."
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goffik
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Re: Silbury's structural integrity
Sep 19, 2007, 13:03
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Littlestone wrote: Looks like English Heritage have come to their senses over the time capsule idea as this will now, "...be placed in the Alexander Keiller Museum in Avebury alongside the contents of Dean Merewether's time capsule and that of Richard Atkinson..."
Now why the hell didn't someone think of this sooner? What a great idea! Everyone's happy! :D
G x
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tuesday
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Re: Update 16 available....
Sep 19, 2007, 13:10
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bad English Heritage.. bad English Heritage.. bad English Heritage.. bad English Heritage.. zzzz....
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