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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Mar 22, 2018, 21:00
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nigelswift wrote: ... But that's democracy, they have a vote and may well have swung it... It sure is. But because as you say nigelswift wrote: in my experience there are a (unmeasured) number who voted for the reasons cited and still think that way. then if they are "unmeasured" and they only appear to exist in the minds of Vince Cable and yourself well I suppose... we'll just have to wait to see what evidence arises from your collective unmeasured research. Then we can all be told what to do to correct our collective democratic faux pas. And we all know that some totalitarian fuckers just don't like democracy. And some weird Liberals will rail against democracy when it doesn't fit the way they think everyone must live according to their "Liberal" world view and their current model of society which they construct (in their ivory towers) from hand-carved, ethically-sourced and sustainably grown wooden Lego-Style bricks. Let them stay in the Monday Club, The Fourth Reich, The Lib Dems or whatever. Pay them no heed. I say screw them.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Mar 23, 2018, 07:17
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Well if you think those people only exist in my mind there's nothing further to be said.
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Locodogz 254 posts |
Mar 28, 2018, 11:19
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Obviously the televised footage of people professing that view was an illuminati conspiracy...........tin hats anyone?!?!
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Mar 30, 2018, 18:43
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Locodogz wrote: Obviously the televised footage of people professing that view was an illuminati conspiracy...........tin hats anyone?!?! I can view a televised clip of many American taken shortly after 911. They were shown a map of New Zealand and asked whether the US should invade it from the North or the South in a retaliation for 911. They sometimes pointed to the North Island of NZ and said "The South". And sometimes they pointed and said "The North". Sometimes it was the same confused manner with "The South" island. That was for f*cking real and that is television for you. It is an excellent thing to measure vox pop with.
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Locodogz 254 posts |
Apr 09, 2018, 12:40
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Howburn Digger wrote: Locodogz wrote: Obviously the televised footage of people professing that view was an illuminati conspiracy...........tin hats anyone?!?! I can view a televised clip of many American taken shortly after 911. They were shown a map of New Zealand and asked whether the US should invade it from the North or the South in a retaliation for 911. They sometimes pointed to the North Island of NZ and said "The South". And sometimes they pointed and said "The North". Sometimes it was the same confused manner with "The South" island. That was for f*cking real and that is television for you. It is an excellent thing to measure vox pop with. Irrelevant diversion. I was merely pointing out that I had seen televised footage of people professing that this was their reason for voting. Ergo they don't purely exist in Nigel's (and Vince Cable's) minds as you had suggested. Beyond this I make no comment on the relative merits of their utterances.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 09, 2018, 13:04
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Bloody New Zealanders.
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Apr 09, 2018, 21:41
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Locodogz wrote: Howburn Digger wrote: Locodogz wrote: Obviously the televised footage of people professing that view was an illuminati conspiracy...........tin hats anyone?!?! I can view a televised clip of many American taken shortly after 911. They were shown a map of New Zealand and asked whether the US should invade it from the North or the South in a retaliation for 911. They sometimes pointed to the North Island of NZ and said "The South". And sometimes they pointed and said "The North". Sometimes it was the same confused manner with "The South" island. That was for f*cking real and that is television for you. It is an excellent thing to measure vox pop with. Irrelevant diversion. I was merely pointing out that I had seen televised footage of people professing that this was their reason for voting. Ergo they don't purely exist in Nigel's (and Vince Cable's) minds as you had suggested. Beyond this I make no comment on the relative merits of their utterances. Okay show us the televised footage then, the many clips with people professing a "nostalgic longing" for "white faces". In fact show me one broadcast clip. If you can show me one single broadcast clip then you can show me that this represents the views of one person. And one person only. I hardly think even one clip is sufficient to claim that any such views are representative of any kind of "unmeasured" number of people who exist in a couple of people's heads. I say show us all the broadcast clips that you claim to have watched where people are professing a nostalgic longing for white faces. And I call horse-sh*t to the idea that there is an " (unmeasured) number of people in Midlands towns who supported Brexit and still do on the simple grounds it will mean Poles, Muslims and refugees will be sent home." Says who... oh yeah... him. That guy there. I would say there is an ACTUAL measured number of people in Midlands towns who supported Brexit. You can actually check the voting returns. You should get a fairly precise number. As for the individual reasons why each individual person actually voted... I think your understanding of those reasons must lie entirely within you and a couple of others fevered imaginations. Unless your "experience" allows you to claim some kind of mass-population mind-reading skills.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Apr 10, 2018, 08:05
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This is all a bit silly. Go into a pub in Willenhall or Gornal and just listen. Saying some people didn't equate voting Brexit with a vote against foreigners coming here is so far from reality that it's not worth discussing further, and I shan't.
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Locodogz 254 posts |
Apr 10, 2018, 15:14
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Nice try.....but once again errant nonsense Lets remind ourselves of Nigel's original post, which I supported. He said; "In the interests of balance, it's my experience that there are a (unmeasured) number of people in Midlands towns who supported Brexit and still do on the simple grounds it will mean Poles, Muslims and refugees will be sent home. No point pretending otherwise I'd have thought." I've seen footage of people citing the fact that there are 'too many foreigners' over here as a reason to support Brexit (I'm sure many other have they were on mainstream TV), furthermore I had the misfortune to witness someone being accosted by an individual (I doubt a remainer) shouting along the lines of 'we won, go home' in the aftermath of the referendum. I'm no more going to try to dig out clips of this than I am to ask you to show yours and I'm sure you'll use this reticence (actually more a lack of web-waviness) to demonstrate that this all made up. I've never suggested that there was one let alone "many clips with people professing a "nostalgic longing" for "white faces"." (your words) - but hey if that's the best you've got!?! BTW you never did show me how post Brexit I'd have the same freedom to work across Europe that I enjoyed before - tip-toed away from that one IIRC! Keyboard revolutionaries, don't like it up'em eh!
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