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Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 14:56
hmm, don't think I know that one.
neighbourofthedrude
neighbourofthedrude
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 17:29
Lord Lucan wrote:
Reading through (some of) this thread, it sounds like the gig was a heroic failure. Wish I'd been there.


You would of loved it !!

Hullo stranger by the way !!

:o)
FOMouse
FOMouse
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 17:55
Squid Tempest wrote:
FOMouse wrote:
Squid Tempest wrote:


Yeah, it's been a good discussion, good for you for sticking with it! As you say, food for thought.


Is that an offer?

Oh....


Food For Thought is a fine veggie cafe/restaurant in Covent Garden, not that you'd be interested in that, I assume...


There's a good cake shop in Covent Garden. I know it well. Or rather, they know me well.

fnff fnff
altpoet
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 18:15
First time I've ever posted on one of these internet things - so if this arrives. I've enjoyed the debate, learned a lot, thinks your all fab people. And I'd have loved to be at the gig. Especially now I've read you're comments.
All the best
Moth
Moth
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 19:08
Ayup!

Yeah, for me, that's a fair assessment. I admire the principle but didn't enjoy the show....

love

Moth
Theaaa
Theaaa
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 24, 2009, 20:12
I still think it's one of the best gigs I've seen all year!
Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 25, 2009, 09:54
hello altpoet, welcome! it has been an interestin debate, hasn't it?
Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest
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Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 25, 2009, 09:59
where did you get the term "sonic collage" btw? to me at least the term isn't in common usage for any form of noise music. the only time I think I've come across anything similar has been in descriptions of some of my own recent music where I've been collaging various sections of songs together, and those weren't even very noisy! just interested like...

I'd also be interested to know what examples of noisy stuff you've come across and listened to, and if any have made more sense to you than others.
IanB
IanB
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Edited Sep 26, 2009, 15:18
Re: Black Sheep @ the Bristol Festival
Sep 25, 2009, 22:26
This was the first Cope gig within travelling distance that hasn't at least been put in the diary just in case we could make it. It's the records that put me off - "Unruly" I like a lot, the rest has been three spins and out for the most part.

That said Landells' photos look brilliant and my heart will always go out to a band that really knows how to dress up. So I wish I had seen that and soaked up the Black Sheep vibe but I doubt it would have me running back to the albums.

For me, and as Mooncat points out elsewhere, it is the quality of humour that is lacking. The BS records seem to be trying to be witty and tough and rousing and point-scoring and genuinely communal in spirit and Cope can be really funny (more often between songs than actually in them) but he isn't Bill Hicks. He's not Ed Hamell for that matter. Play Hamell's "Terrorism of Everyday Life" live album and that does the job - it rocks, makes all its political points with originality, the acoustic assault is thrilling and you end up crying with laughter. A little like those old Cope solo bootlegs.

I need more Doggen and less doggerel. You can still do the Keats in Leather Trousers thing and be political too but unless you are a bona fide comedy genius political songs should be subtly persuasive. Shouty is for Sham and TRB. "Problem" and most of the BS related releases feel like harangues. The music is kind of hectoring too. Never liked marching bands. Or uniforms for that matter.

Anyway, I'll definitely be making an effort to make the next one as anything that looks this good must have something going for it. My mind is open cos the whole thing is in its infancy but my wallet is probably going to need prising open with substantial force when it comes to the next BS cd.
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