Andy Peacehole
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KEEF RULES OK!!!
Feb 16, 2008, 09:13
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Dog 3000 wrote: What exactly do those riffs say?
"Chuck Berry is my hero"
"This will sound great in a car commercial a few years down the road"
"Another scotch guv'nor"
"Where'd I put me ciggies?"
(Sheesh, is this all you guys got? I expected wave after wave of viscious assaults coming from all directions for daring to question the sainthood of Keef's guitar!)
Oh, get outta Dodge (Already!!!) and don't be a DOWNUH!!!
You want 'viscious'? I'm plumb out of slippery roads, but you're treading a fine line twixt ignorance and bliss so et me push you RIGHT over the edge!
For a start, this is SECOND (2-N-D) time I've caught you raggin' the adorable Stone Rollers Deluxe! MERCY!
Is it the Stones' money you after? Too late: Klein got nearly ALL their London/Decca sides stashed in Switzerland, honey! They done earned it honestly: by Rock'n'Rolling the WORLD (this planet HEAH) with their glitter trash, sex, and drugs and dirty dreams (and they're STILL surviving ON THE STREETS!) And they're in tatters! As always! Hooray!
Chuck always got his in cash and drove straight off in his R&B airmobile, dodging radio birdmen up above! Bravo!
You wanna break it down to Keef the Riff-hard? Well, lissen up, honey: there's more to those paleolithic riffs than Chuckles the B (have mercy on his pissed-on face *GIGGLE!*) Have a go at someone with half the moxie and I'd be agreement til next Tuesday...and beyond!
And sidestepping the white confectionaries for the moment, let us look at what he did outside of the image, drugs, ciggies and drink. IT'S LOTS!
He's a scowling outsider/high society disbeliever hunkered down with an an arsenal of riffs that (BELIEVE ME) drive down far lower than only Chess record Bee sides! Like with country honk, slow Chicago blues, all the roots, all the basic tenets bestowed upon us all by the ever-loving grace of Elvis (KING) Presley, Robert Johnson, Muddy H-2-Oh and so on and so on and so on into the river of live ALL great rock'n'roll IS!!!!!
And reggae! You don't have a son of one of the Bros. Neville playing in your band 'less you the real McCoy and NOOOOOOOOO foooolin'! Ivan played keys on Keith's "Talk Is Cheap" 20 years ago and still sounds untainted by nothing x-cept experience~!
- He wrote "Satisfaction" in a dream and it became a bigger one for all of us in the waking world! If you be asleep, you'll only hear zzzzz's!
-"Dance Little Sister" makes me do just that. ALWAYS! You can forgive him for anything after a spin of that 1974 classic. Makes me blush 4-Evuh for doing what my big sister did (and TWICE no less!!)
- "Miss Amanda Jones": 3-way Keith crosstalk while Brian snoozed away in a green room dream of oblivion (Brain was cute, but just SO out of it in '66) and it still sounds like the 4 minute kaleidoscope dream that IT IS!
- "Little T&A" and all the other Keef sung tracks that litter every album since "Before They Make Me Run" off "Some Girls" -- I'd be HIS little rock'n'roll, anytime with a blue beat delivery like that!
- "Make No Mistake" off his brilliant, down-beat first solo album. Al Green if he was a lighter shade of male (incoming!)
- "Sympathy For The Devil": Oooohhhh -- for THAT solo, I'd scold even the superfine Strait 'James' Williamson for blatant "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine" reverse plagiarism. Did you EVUH???!!!
- "Citadel": I never felt FINUH first hearing those atonal strums of plectrum lunacy ring in my VA-GI-NUH in the moooorrrrnnnig! What was he on (besides Fly Agaric and Anita? Methinks pure inspir-AY-SHUN)
He got heart, he got funk he got SOUL-THRICEFOLD! You think you got him figured then he goes and does one better...by remaining the same! Only better! LIKE BUTTUH
And he's got more than you think he does....he's undercovah...in the night and strikes with a spirit's knife with riffs deadly and a-plenty. So there!!
x
Andy Peacehole
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keith a
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Re: overrated guitarists
Feb 16, 2008, 16:19
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Dog 3000 wrote: What exactly do those riffs say?
"Chuck Berry is my hero"
"This will sound great in a car commercial a few years down the road"
I think the Stones got past their Chuck style very early on. Paint It Black, to pick a 60's song at random, has very little to do with Chuck. And actually, even their debut album probably owes as much if not more to the likes of Jimmy Reed than it does to Berry.
As for your second point, yeah people thought like that back then didn't they?
But I am surprised from what I know of your tastes that you don't like the Stones. Are you being wilfully perverse?
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keith a
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Re: overrated guitarists
Feb 16, 2008, 16:22
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Dog 3000 wrote: I think Brian May was a terrific and very influential player on those 70's Queen records -- the Van Halens, Malmsteens and Vai's of the world owe him a huge debt.
Christ, he wants shooting for helping inflict that on the public!
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IanB
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Re: overrated guitarists
Feb 16, 2008, 16:53
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Is that Clapton? Blimey. That's three Clapton solos I like then!
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IanB
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Edited Feb 16, 2008, 19:54
Re: overrated guitarists
Feb 16, 2008, 17:06
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Keef, Watts, Wyman (a very underrated bass player when you listen to his live work circa 73) and Taylor were a great combo for five years or so, especially on stage, but Keef's musical growth rate is non existent since 75 and his obession with authenticity is completely yawn-inducing. As is the whole Jah Keef, Harder-Than-The-Rest thing.
I will admit that my musical opinion is slightly skewed by the fact that the older I get the less forgivable all that heroin chic nonsense seems to me.
Way too much junkie business for my liking. His pose has been a siren's song for too many impressionable young men.
Still Sticky Fingers is a killer record and he was brilliant in Stella Street.
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IanB
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Jimmy Page?
Feb 16, 2008, 17:15
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Wonderful guitar player on his day but when I flick through my collection it seems he hasn't had many of those on record since 76.
Seven great years and then a whole lotta not much of anything?
Say it ain't so.
If you can.
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Maldoror
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Re: overrated guitarists
Feb 16, 2008, 21:49
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Keith Richards
Eric Clapton
Richie Blackmore
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Eddie Van Halen
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rojo
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Edited Feb 16, 2008, 22:58
Re: the last word ?
Feb 16, 2008, 22:57
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with you on that one bubs - a true tosser he is!
really dont understand why he needs to hit every note onthe fretboard... he has missed his vocation and should simply play violin, or whatever, and take up classical music!
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paradox
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Re: Jimmy Page?
Feb 16, 2008, 23:50
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No Ian you are spot on mate!
The last time old JP did owt worth listening too was PRESENCE!
Achilles last stand and the rest of the album is awesome mate!
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Moth
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Re: Jimmy Page?
Feb 17, 2008, 01:50
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Ah - I forgot him!!!
Much as I love a lot of the songs he wrote with Zeppelin, and admire his versatility etc, soloswise, bar a few I've never understood why he's rated so highly.
love
Moth
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