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anthonyqkiernan 7087 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 15:20
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To speak up in favour of 'Tonight', or not. note to self: Don't even think of mentioning Tin Machine.
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Glam Descendant 1539 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 17:21
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Not sure what you're getting at here, Curt Kirkwood is one of THE great guitarists in my book.
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Glam Descendant 1539 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 17:28
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Well I don't wanna be spoiling any legends. It kinda gets into a grey area as to what you mean by outtakes. If a song is first attempted at one sesssion, left behind, and then resuscitated at a later session, is that an outtake? I don't really know. "Loving Cup" had certainly been around since '69 -- they even played it at Hyde Park. I have earlier versions of "Shine a Light" (titled "Get a Line On You") and "All Down the Line". But that doesn't mean the versions on EXILE weren't breathed into life at Nellcote. Make sense? The Stones are not always the best judge of their material (though not as bad as Dylan). "Waiting on a Friend", which I consider a gem, was recorded as far back as GOAT'S HEAD SOUP, so it took them 8 years to figure out it was worth releasing. "Start Me Up" was all but forgotten before found on a tape of EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtakes!
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Metalpub 130 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 17:40
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I used to really like "loving the alien" from Tonight. Heard it again recently, and was horrified to notice that the bit before the chorus instantly reminds me of the intro to the theme tune of Red Dwarf. | |||
Glam Descendant 1539 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 19:14
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I haven't heard a recording but I've read he's doing a great version of "Loving The Alien" on his current tour. It was lazy but I have fond memories of TONIGHT (moreso than NEVER LET ME DOWN -- one of the most ironic titles ever). I see Tin Machine as the necessary conduit to help him emerge from his 80s quagmire; it worked in my opinion.
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Lawrence 9547 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 21:28
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Well I heard him play, and I'm not convinced. I'm not saying he's a bad musician anyways, it just doesn't fry my bacon.
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anthonyqkiernan 7087 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 21:41
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<sssshhhh>I really love a large chunk of the first TM album - and, I like tonight with TT</sssshhhh> | |||
Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Nov 26, 2003, 22:46
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I quite like the first TM album (never heard the 2nd one). My main quibble with it was that it wasn't as raucous and heavy as the build up to the project inferred it would be. Heard a lot worse though. From Bowie too. | |||
Neilneil 23 posts |
Nov 27, 2003, 13:29
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I always think of an out-take as being a song that was recorded at sessions for one album and not used but then later on it was suitable to be used for a different project later on in time being used as it was originally recorded. The reason for songs not being used at the time can be many fold .
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anthonyqkiernan 7087 posts |
Nov 27, 2003, 13:54
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The second one (which actually got decent reviews) was overproduced kacka. Reminds me of his last but one (the name of which escapes me) which was also critically acclaimed despite being his lamest in soem time.
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