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Howburn Digger
Howburn Digger
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Re: Re-Opening Schools
Sep 03, 2020, 20:33
nigelswift wrote:

Having not gone out for six months thereby proving science right, I'm not a fan of anti-maskers, nor of people who wear masks but not over their noses. Call me eccentric but there we are, I think delusions and ignorance both kill grannies and can't help resenting both.


If you have not gone out for six months I'm afraid that does not mean you have "proved Science right". It doesn't prove anything except that you have not gone out for six months. Your much-needed daily intake of viral bloom and bacterial updates will have pretty much flatlined - making you (and everyone else who hasn't gone out for six months) very vulnerable to respiratory infections. Using your current logic that might mean an endless extension of Lockdown & not going out for the rest of your life & always wearing a mask. That is your kinda Science and Proof?

No hospital treatment for a dehydrated 96 year old grandfather who was unable to stomach food WILL definitely (100%) kill him. Ask my son about his grandfather's death in a Care Home. His granny is fine and Covid-Symptom-Free - despite being locked down with her 96 year old husband with a respiratory infection for months. Science was not even involved nor was proper medical care beyond sedation and rolling to prevent bedsores. No testing and no post-mortem. Where is the Science you speak of? There was no testing of staff at the home which had pretty much zero PPE until the end of May/ early June (long after my Dad's death). They are still all fine. What is THAT Scientific Proof of..?
nigelswift
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Re: Re-Opening Schools
Sep 04, 2020, 13:46
Yes, but I wasn't talking about hospital treatment, merely making the point that people who don't go out don't get covid,which both science and common sense predicted.

And yes, it's dangerous to miss a daily intake of viral bloom but it's a case of risk-balancing. Plus people like me also have an additional risk-balancing to do - whether to go for urgent treatment or not. The specialist agrees best stay home on both counts and is pretty contemptuous of government advice to the contrary.
Howburn Digger
Howburn Digger
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Re: Re-Opening Schools
Sep 15, 2020, 20:43
Face Masks are completely useless in social settings such as schools, shops and suchlike. As are Bandanas. And scarfs. As are special cloth ones made by the grannies at the WRI. Totally useless. 2 minutes shows you why.

https://videopress.com/v/4egEyh2b

You actually already knew all this. Just you've been told to disbelieve what you already know by BoJo, DomCum and the rest... Remember what you know. Open windows and breath freely and clearly.

Now within two minutes of the 8.50 school bell ringing... around 1,000 school pupils and 90 staff have spread their aerosol breath EVERYWHERE in the building with its warm air conditioning and circulatory air system. Masks or no masks. But breath-moist masks causes additional risks in the face, mouth, nose, lungs and respiratory system, trapping germs, mucus particles, infections and providing a moist warm focus for them. Muffled voices of pupils behind masks means that they lean closer into one another to hear. When masks are removed in classrooms kids swivel them like rotor blades around their pencils and fingers, lay them on desks or drape them round their chins (that is a really nice one once the talking starts...). I hope people are getting this.

There will be very nasty cold & flu outbreaks this Autumn and Winter. Masks will accelerate it and ramp it up to new heights. I do not reckon that the masking situation will do anything but enhance the breeding ground for Covid-19 and focus viral loads to aid transmission. I would suggest everyone starts eating ten-a-day, additional vitamins, regular sleep, reduce alcohol and get plenty of exercise and fresh air.
nigelswift
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Re: Re-Opening Schools
Sep 16, 2020, 08:27
I think "completely useless in social settings" is over-egging it.

Lancet: "Data are accumulating that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, is transmitted by both small and large particle aerosols."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30323-4/fulltext
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