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grufty jim
grufty jim
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Re: Fair warning from US Ambassador
Mar 02, 2019, 12:12
nigelswift wrote:
The EU is a “museum of agriculture”, the US ambassador to Britain has said, as he urged the UK to embrace American farming methods to seal a transatlantic trade deal.

Writing in The Telegraph, Woody Johnson says US practices such as chlorine-washing chicken and feeding growth hormones to cattle are “the future of farming” while the EU’s “traditionalist approach” belongs in the past.


Brexit's a farce, but I wouldn't pay much attention to any of the messaging coming out of the current US administration. They have as much understanding of the issue as the average member of the tory party.

in the past week alone they have made two completely contradictory demands about Brexit... firstly that any future free trade deal with the UK is contingent upon the terms of the Belfast Agreement being respected and the British border in Ireland remaining open.

And at the same time demand a relaxation of UK agricultural standards (which would -- by definition -- require a hard border in Ireland).

The whole thing is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, but I'm not sure anything said by one of Trump's diplomats can technically be described as a "fair" warning.
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Fair warning from US Ambassador
Mar 02, 2019, 14:29
Yes, for "fair" read "ominous".

The big one always wins in "negotiations", obviously. Who didn't know that? Yet people were told the opposite in 2016 and now the EU's strength is being characterised as unreasonableness.

How amazing it is being pretended that the same thing won't happen with the US - in fact, worse.
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 09:11
Brummy lorry driver to me, yesterday:
"Why did you vote Remain? No-one round my way did. We need to get rid of the immigrants NOW. They've ruined this country"

If Cameron had spoken to that bloke he'd never have risked a referendum.

Not that some immigrants have helped. A petition by 400 parents in a Muslim area of Brum has just resulted in lessons on LGBT being withdrawn.

Fuck religion.

Good morning.
Amil04
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 09:48
9.11 ... don’t get me started! Timing Nigel! :))
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 09:52
9/11 was lunatics misinterpreting a religion. This is (otherwise) sensible, respectable people with backward beliefs based on a long-dead bloke.
Amil04
447 posts

Edited Mar 05, 2019, 10:02
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 10:01
I said don’t get me started! It’s too early in the day! ;))

I think something different happened but..there we go.
The question of ‘where was all the rubble that day’ led me to think differently. The rubble pile that day was pitifully small..most of the towers blew away in the breeze. I can see that for myself..They sold us a lie, again. Several of the named ‘hijackers’ turned up alive and well?
Oh no! I’ve started!

Ooo you!

Have a good un’

Remember what Robin Cook said about Al Queda.
Amil04
447 posts

Edited Mar 05, 2019, 10:05
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 10:04
Ps ‘fuckin’ religion’ I agree with you there bud...
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 10:19
Amil04 wrote:
Ps ‘fuckin’ religion’ I agree with you there bud...


And yet you don't say "fuckin, conspiracy theories"?

Why are you so selective?!
Amil04
447 posts

Edited Mar 05, 2019, 12:22
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 11:18
Ha..sometimes I do!..in sense, because there’s a whole load of nonsense out there too..
I’m just selective about what I’m prepared to believe. I don’t like the term conspiracy theory..why does someone’s radically different ideas about what’s happening in the world need to be call anything but an alternative view. The terms ‘Brexit’ and ‘conspiracy theory’ have a similar effect on many people..they switch off. They get the tacit message from mainstream “oh we’ll never really know what happened” or “it’s just going to go on and on and on and not get anywhere.” Or...this is what happened and anybody that doesn’t agree you have to call names...ok?” Well, what if...what if people such as Richard Hall, Judy Wood and Andrew Johnson (checktheevidence.com) have actually uncovered ‘the truth’ or something closer than what we’ve been given. I think that’s the key word..’evidence.’
We all know the people at the top don’t really give a shit about us..let em’ eat cake..and be sure to tax em’..nice one Jamie..you know which side y’ breads buttered. The media is so powerful..why do we believe it? Herding instinct? The biggest threat to the establishment comes from its own population. I’m reminded of Treason May’s radio 4 interview a few years back talking about cracking down on non-violent extremism online..the above mentioned people RH, JW and AJ are really who she’s talking about?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r8z20


I don’t know how MP Barry Gardiner can call RH’s latest film “Racial abuse” It’s an independent investigation. See how he hooked it in with far right extremism? (BBC Question Time Twitter)

Cuppa? Ah go on..

Come to think of it things have been suspiciously ‘quiet’ recently..I get the feeling we might due a reminder..a focus shift.
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Mar 05, 2019, 12:37
"I'm just selective about what I’m prepared to believe."

Me too. Without that we're all lost.


"I don’t like the term conspiracy theory..why does someone’s radically different ideas about what’s happening in the world need to be call anything but an alternative view."

I don,t like "alternative" either. It's the last refuge of the irrational, the ill-educated and those who want to sell bollocks books and CDs. We never got to the moon by believing in alternative views.

;)
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