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nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 14:54
The European Parliament approves an accord with Japan that has been dubbed the world's biggest trade deal, covering economies that represent a third of the world's GDP,,,,,,
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 15:50
How do we join this EU thingy?
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 15:58
Don't know, i picked it up from someone else's tweet.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 16:04
It's been an interesting couple of days to say the least. To be outside of this deal though is really the final nail in the coffin for anyone still trying to support brexit. There's literally no credible argument left that this doesn't undermine. There's literally no possible deal on the planet that is going to equal this. This is literally huge!
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 16:28
Explain to me: therer's not an MP that isn't willing to go against his constituents views but not in this case. What's driving them?
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 16:45
Party whip I imagine, putting their own careers over the best interests of the uk. I can't see how this can credibly go on any longer.
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 17:31
Maybe, like tonights vote, votes in parliament should be anonymous?! Suddenly, the country would be properly governed through people asting upon their own consciences!
tjj
tjj
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 18:21
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thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 18:29
Captain Starlet wrote:
There's literally no credible argument left that this doesn't undermine. There's literally no possible deal on the planet that is going to equal this. This is literally huge!


I agree with your viewpoint (obvs), but the problem here is that both remainers and moderate leavers seem to now be trying to assess Brexit solely on the basis of the economic effect of the various outcomes.

There is still an argument, which clearly resonates with many leave voters, that the, or even any, economic sacrifice is worth it to end freedom of movement and/or stop EU involvement with the UK's laws.

For many leave voters, this has been the goal right from the off (to be fair, many have not made any bones about this) but now the debate seems to focusing almost entirely on which outcome is better or worse economically, without really acknowledging the other factors that led to the leave vote.
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Dec 12, 2018, 19:23
Well, if you're a Tory leaver maybe stopping EU involvement with the UK's laws is attractive as it means conservatism without any outside ties of decency or compassion. But if you aren't, it's a nightmare.
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