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Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: How can Corbyn not react?
Nov 06, 2018, 18:19
I don't think any new party would be able to stop A50 but could be a way forward for many of the disenfranchised in those parties, assuming they overcome their political differences and put workable policies forward that is.

I'm always amazed when they go on about a snap GE assuming they're going to win. In pretty much all polls they're trailing the tories, which speaks volumes in itself.

Living in Wales since losing my job due to the EU ref I've had a lot of time to think about things, one of the things I have found very interesting is the independence movements in Scotland and Wales. One thing the quitters didn't plan for was the potential break up of the uk. Scotland will get another ref if we leave the EU and next time the uk govt can't use the excuse that we're "stronger together" within the EU to entice Scottish voters to stay. In Wales the movement is growing rapidly, with the Yes group having almost 10,000 members, plus other groups and supporters not in groups all rooting for it, but a long way to go in Wales though.

I was having an argument with the leader of a local party here who rampantly supports leaving the EU, but for some reason supports Westminster rule and keeping the uk, claiming he's a "unionist". I've never actually figured out the logic of that as he voted leave so this country (he lives in Wales too, and is a country in its own right) won't have another country making it's laws (which the EU doesn't, but he doesn't want to accept that) for us. England is another country telling Wales its laws and how to run its country.

The mind still boggles!
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
1093 posts

Re: How can Corbyn not react?
Nov 06, 2018, 19:13
Labour for a People's Vote
? @LabPeoplesVote
2h2 hours ago

The Momentum Brexit consultation results are in.

Headlines:

A mammoth 92% believe that all Labour MPs should oppose a Tory deal that fails Labour's six tests.

81% support a public vote on the deal.

@UKLabour and @PeoplesMomentum members are united in opposing Tory Brexit. ?
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 08, 2018, 14:24
Andrew Adonis
?Verified account @Andrew_Adonis
6h6 hours ago

Utterly pathetic that most Labour MSPs abstained on a people’s vote in the Scottish Parliament yesterday. What are they going to tell their grandchildren about Brexit - ‘I abstained’
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 07:31
Larry the Cat
? @Number10cat
11h11 hours ago

Just had a sneaky look at the #BrexitDeal - hope none of you are too attached to the Crown Jewels. Or Cornwall. #kitileaks
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
1093 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 13:13
In the wise words of C3PO "we're fucked"
giNgko_C
giNgko_C
1618 posts

Edited Nov 14, 2018, 14:10
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 14:06
Can't be that bad surely, most cat I know just wants to smother your face and eat your arms!

"Miaow took the arms! They'll never take our arms!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSDkkbz6iGM

lol

Cx
grufty jim
grufty jim
1978 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 14:08
Leo Varadkar has just given the "brexit deal" his qualified blessing at Leaders Questions this morning in The Dáil.

BUT...

... if the deal meets Irish requirements it must contain a Northern Ireland backstop, so almost by definition it will not meet the DUP's red lines. Or if it does, then it's a whole-UK backstop which cannot meet the ERG's red lines.

I have no idea how this is going to get through the UK parliament. But I'm eager to see Theresa May try.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Edited Nov 14, 2018, 15:08
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 15:08
I'm surprised that Ireland have supported it, unless May just gave up and said ok to whatever. It's kind of strange to see many remainers and leavers all agreeing in wanting this to fail.
grufty jim
grufty jim
1978 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 14, 2018, 16:10
Well, it's tough to know whether to be surprised or not without knowing what the deal actually says yet.

But if Ireland signed up then it basically just means that the original Northern Ireland backstop is in the final text. Lest we forget, that's the one May agreed to in December 2017... then disavowed in February 2018... then agreed to again in March 2018... then said "no Prime Minister could sign up to it" a couple of months after that...

Once that's in the document then Ireland is happy (or as happy as we're going to be about this fecking shambles).

But that in turn makes it hard to see how the DUP or the ERG will be.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
1093 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Nov 15, 2018, 08:38
I live in Wales, we're not even mentioned, which should give some sort of indication.
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