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Stevo
Stevo
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 11:49
Does kind of make his purpose of existence really questionable.
BUt he hasa mandate from his home constituency apparently.
Did have me wondering what Angela Eagle would have said at that point. What with Wallasey not supporting her in that way, was that actually why she didn't go any further?

& now wondering how she would have handled any of the recent process. Would she be crying a lot and getting people to put bricks through the wrong windows so the trail wasn't so obvious?
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 11:52
Was it the Corbynist vote taht he was going after with that comment. I'm assuming there was some intention in saying it initially anyway.
he wasn't going after the disenfranchised muslim youth vote like he seemed to be going after floating UKIPers with comments about patriotism/sense of belonging to place that he was going on about on Newsnight and elsewhere a few weeks back.

But the mass walk over to the Corbyn side was quite refreshing anyway even if it might have been a little false.

Stevo
spencer
spencer
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 13:02
The guy must realise he's probably going to lose now, despite the NEC's efforts. Look at the bookies. Just flailing around, sounding off, fucking things up, giving the meeja/Tories a helping hand. He's already said he'll stay on back benches if (when) he loses. Wonder who'll have a crack at being numero uno JC opponent next? Burnham's going for the Manchester regional mayorality: H*lary?
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 13:13
There's talk about some Labour seniors asking David Miliband to come back and offering him Jo Cox's seat. He'd be a fool to come back to politics, he's making a fortune in the US for a start, and offering him her seat is hugely disrespectful to her memory and people know this and will unlikely support such a move.
spencer
spencer
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 14:20
I don't think Miliband's done with British politics.. but who's going to parachute him in somewhere? I thought he'd gone to the US for some form of charity work - if he's managing to coin it doing that then hmmm. Jo Cox will be a hard act to follow, including her local connection. Running out of time.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 17:10
Last year it was reported he was earning $600,000 from the job, as am MP he's be on about 10% of that. You'd need an extremely high level of principles to give that up, and he's not got that.

Here's a bit more on it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3740145/David-Miliband-urged-UK-politics-standing-tragic-Jo-Cox-s-seat-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-leadership-race.html
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 18:24
Did I hear right that Joe cox was really critical of Jeremy Corbyn?
Was there a specific reason?
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: If you can bear to watch...
Aug 18, 2016, 18:33
Yeah she was, it was over the May elections, which deeply missed the point. It was Corbyn's first local elections and he gained a higher percentage than both Blair and Cameron on their first local elections. Sadly people don't want to accept that.
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Aug 20, 2016, 10:16
JUst read about troubles with security firms possibly meaning the September conference is in question. The firm they had set up to do it is currently in dispute with a union and the one they had used for the previous 10 years got dismissed because of its activity in Israel.

Fun fun fun.

Are they attempting to delay while Owen Smith gets some charisma surgically attached?

also this was interesting
https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/the-sound-of-blairite-silence-aed2ef726c8a#.gmr51gc54
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Aug 20, 2016, 14:31
There was a piece in the guardian the other day trying to blame Corbyn for the conference situation, ignoring the fact that it's got absolutely nothing to do with him.
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