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spencer
spencer
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 20, 2016, 11:07
"The party is teetering on the edge of extinction": STFU you TWAT!!!!!
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 20, 2016, 11:21
Was that smith?
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 20, 2016, 11:33
Hope he'll go still further.
Just seems like a major fake from what I'm seeing and hearing.

I suppose he'll retain home town support even if he makes himself any more odious over this.

Is he an ersatz (or totally fake) Corbyn being put up against the real one?
Just hope that when Corbyn wins these tools lay down and don't cause any more hassle.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 20, 2016, 12:21
This was posted on fb, you can make of it what you will

Exposé on Owen Smith MP

Owen Smith MP, who is challenging Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party, has a lot of dirty linen that he does not want washed in public. Luckily, I have brought my own box of Daz.
I have it on very good authority (from someone within the Blarite Labour camp, who is disgusted by the behind-the-scenes secret-deals, funny handshakes, and distain for the voters), of the following:

1. Owen Smith is actually the original perpetrator of the challenge to Jeremy Corbyn (and has been for a very time). The agenda for the leadership challenge was set up in April! Yes, that’s right, April and not July. Angela Eagle was brought in as a ruse, to make Owen look good. Eagle actually believed that she had a chance. She had none. This was a coup d'état with only a few of the players in the know. Angela Eagle was not one of them. She was deliberately led down the garden path to make mistakes and look foolish (and didn’t she rise to the challenge). Owen Smith’s agenda during the interview with Eagle on the recent BBC news show is obvious for all to see. When Owen indicated that: “He would withdraw from the contest if Ms Eagle won more support among Labour MPs”, you could almost see him snigger. Smith already knew the agenda was set. He already knew who his supporters were and also those of Eagle. So, the interview was merely play-acting on his part.

2. Owen Smith had always intended to split the Labour Party (right from the beginning). Apparently, Owen Smith believes he can head Jeremy Corbyn off at the pass. It goes something like this: should Corbyn win, none of the MP’s will take cabinet positions (this has already been decided by those in the know). Smith believes that by doing this, it will split the party in two. This is what he wants. Smith realises that Jeremy has so much grass-roots support, that he is unable to successfully win in that quarter. However, a split party is a weakened party and he intends to take full advantage of it.

3. Many of the Blairite MP’s have been offered powerful positions and sweetheart deals, should they vote against Corbyn. It is extremely hush-hush and it does explain why so many MP’s suddenly went against Corbyn. Those who sat on the fence eventually decided to support ANYBODY other than Corbyn. I would suggest that once Jeremy Corbyn gets in, that the bank accounts and behind-the-scene deals of these MP’s are investigated. The whole system that they are involved in is so incredibly corrupt.

4. As many of you know, Smith was a lobbyist for Pfizer. As Head of Policy and Government Relations for Pfizer, Owen Smith was also directly involved in Pfizer’s funding of Blairite right-wing entryist group Progress. Pfizer gave Progress £53,000. Progress has actively pursued the agenda of PFI and privatisation of NHS services.

Pfizer is among the world's largest pharmaceutical companies. Big Pharma seeks enormous profits over the health and well-being of the humans it serves, and these drug companies invasively corrupt the way that the healthcare industry delivers its vital services. Corrupt being the operative word.

So, why was Owen involved with an American company? Well, Owen Smith is on record as saying that: “.... Pfizer had been “extremely supportive” of his aspirations to public office”. Make of that what you will.

Well, I am sure that Pfizer would love to get their toe in the door of the British NHS and Owen is their man to do just that!

During his time as chief lobbyist for Pfizer, Owen Smith actively pushed for privatisation of NHS services. Therefore, we know that the NHS will definitely not be safe in his hands. Should he become leader of the Labour Party, it will only be a matter of time before he will use his influence to start the process for privatisation of the NHS.

What we will end up with is something akin to the American system, where you will need to show your credit card (or insurance papers), before receiving treatment. Americans (rich and poor), have to find ways of paying for their very expensive treatments, should they get sick. This is our future, should Owen Smith become leader of the Labour Party.

And, if you think things could not get dirtier, Owen Smith is a strong supporter of Trident and assiduously courts the arms industry. He is a regular at defence industry events.

This is dirty dealing, folks. THIS is what we will get should Smith rise to power. If you value your future and well-being of your family, then you must do everything you can to ensure that he cannot continue his corrupt agenda. If he gains leadership, we really can say goodbye to the NHS and a whole lot more.
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 20, 2016, 14:39
Yeah it's what he said this morning that he went and told JC after the Brexit referendum.

Everything with the guy seems to be hyperbolic slogan even that slogan about solutions not slogans
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jul 22, 2016, 23:20
Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 22, 2016, 20:16
Our constituency meeting is Thursday night. Last time Cooper beat Corbyn by a single vote with Stella Creasy (rightly) a clear winner as deputy. This was pre the Syria vote and all that Hilary Benn nonsense of course.

This time I suspect JC will win the local vote by a country mile.

On that occasion a fair number of people arrived at not far from the very last minute so they could take part in the vote but without listening to any of the discussions or having their credentials checked. I had a strong feeling at the time that at least some of them had been scrambled when the groundswell of support for JC in the room became all too evident. There were more than enough late comers to swing it Cooper's way. A fat lot of good that did them in the end though.

This time they are checking people off the members roll. Last time people were taken at their word. This was pre Momentum so I expect the checks to be rigorous this time to guard against the prospect of a "rabble of Trots" (aka ordinary Labour voters who are sick of the endless surrender) turning up. Tempted to take multiple proofs of ID just to be sure of getting in.

Two long months of unnecessary blood letting ahoy. Bah!
duberyderek
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 22, 2016, 21:35
It's a forgone conclusion at this stage. The PLP should sod off and form the SDP again
Sin Agog
Sin Agog
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Edited Jul 25, 2016, 17:49
Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 25, 2016, 17:45
I noticed about twelve counts of 'Vote Corbyn' graffiti out and about Brighton today. Wall writing seems to be the only type of media you can fully trust. Well, except for that one guy who said he can be found at the glory hole every Friday between 6pm and midnight but never showed up.
Robot Emperor
Robot Emperor
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 25, 2016, 18:07
I was busy lugging a brick through Angela Eagle's office window.
Sin Agog
Sin Agog
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Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 25, 2016, 18:16
:D :D

Now that's a glory hole.
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