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zephiloyd
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Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 00:26
dodge one wrote:
This is almost as good as the GhostWhisper thread.

NOT.

Say what you want, but i'll take western democracy over totalitarian shit-holes anyday. Or Communist ones. Or states of anarchy.
Try Burma or Iran or perhaps even modern day Mexico for a lifestyle choice...Oh wait, i forgot, they are the way they are as part of the master plan. Dat ol debil....western european civilization marches on !

Anyhow...gotta go shave my ass with a rusty cheese grater....again.
D1

PS: I've eaten Sheeple, it tastes just like chicken.


Western democracy is fake, it has been taken over by the global totalitarian dictatorship, it gives you the illusion of freedom. Mexico is currently one of the most dangerous countries in the world, the drug gangs run it, it is a failed state. The best country is Switzerland, their citizens are armed and they are not in the fascist EU. The Nazis did not invade Switzerland because they knew they were armed.
dodge one
dodge one
1242 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 00:34
Do you allways lurch into the room with your dick in your hand?
Are your eyes sunk into the back of your head?
Did you know that those with the most guns will canabilize their nieghbors first in the post apocalyptic epoch?
You are in grave danger of turning the Black Popes most unwelcome attention upon yourself.
What brand of toothpaste do you employ in your masturbation rituals?
I think that you and RON will hit it off swell.
D1
zephiloyd
66 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 00:44
dodge one wrote:
Do you allways lurch into the room with your dick in your hand?
Are your eyes sunk into the back of your head?
Did you know that those with the most guns will canabilize their nieghbors first in the post apocalyptic epoch?
You are in grave danger of turning the Black Popes most unwelcome attention upon yourself.
What brand of toothpaste do you employ in your masturbation rituals?
I think that you and RON will hit it off swell.
D1


why the rudeness?

dodge one wrote:

Did you know that those with the most guns will canabilize their nieghbors first in the post apocalyptic epoch?


Wrong. It is not the neighbours you have to worry about, it is the foreign armies employed by the government. The unarmed citizen can be marched off to the Fema camps with little resistance, and armed citizen has more chance.

In place where guns are illegal, the criminals own most of the guns, In place where guns are legal, the citizens own most of the guns. You should therefore fear places where guns are illegal.
dodge one
dodge one
1242 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 00:48
Nite sweetie....i'll sleep much better knowing that all the cares of the world rest on your deluded shoulders.
zephiloyd
66 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 00:57
dodge one wrote:
Nite sweetie....i'll sleep much better knowing that all the cares of the world rest on your deluded shoulders.


Johnny Cash would have agreed with me about the guns!
dodge one
dodge one
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Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 01:01
Quote: Johnny Cash...."Don't take your guns to town"
If i were you, i would'nt go speaking for the man in black.
Enough of you....
mingtp
mingtp
2269 posts

Edited Oct 05, 2010, 01:24
Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 01:04
Zephiloyd, I say this in good humour with good intention because I once thought similarly:

1. You are preaching, whilst not to the choir, but to a forum inhabited by pretty switched on people. But, preaching you are.

2. You may not know it yet, but you are in danger of becoming crippled by paranoia. Yes, we all know that global power elites exist and that they do nasty stuff, but most conspiracy theories are not "truth" - did you know that one of the signs of psychotic thinking is the drawing of sweeping conclusions from limited evidence? If you start to see connections everywhere, it's time to lay off the weed. Trust me.

3. David Icke is a cunt. Here's why: he makes money from selling delusions (lizards? pur-lease) to vulnerable people. And he's an anti-Semite. I saw the thread title you posted and thought "could be a giggle", but switched off the moment you cited David Icke. He's a cunt as much as George W. Bush is a cunt. Only without the body-count.

4. I'm no expert, but instead of believing all you're told by conspiracists, try reading something more grounded and thoughtful. Equally as radical but far less sensationalist, try reading some Noam Chomsky or any other of the more grounded writers many of the "heads" on this site could steer you towards.

Peace
mingtp
mingtp
2269 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 01:10
helvellyn wrote:
Partly because I think it's utter rubbish, and any radical ideas get dismissed as tinfoil hat stuff, precisely because the radical analysis of society expressed by NWO conspiracists is then subverted into something that can be safely dismissed.



Good point, well made.
grufty jim
grufty jim
1978 posts

Edited Oct 05, 2010, 01:40
Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 01:40
You're digging yourself into a hole here, zephiloyd. The more you write, the more like a conspiracy-theorist caricature you sound.

See, the thing you need to understand before going any further is that you are not presenting new information to most of us. You're listing things that many of us here (by and large) already know about. The reason people aren't taking these things seriously isn't out of a fear of change, or of being deprogrammed. It's because they've already thought about them and concluded that they don't make much sense.

But I completely understand the impulse to believe in these kinds of conspiracy theories. In fact, if you'd met me 20 years ago, I have no doubt we'd agree on much. But ultimately I came to realise that conspiracy theories are primarily a defence mechanism.

See here's the thing... the world is messed-up. Our civilisation is unravelling at the seams and the observant and sensitive among us can tell it's happening. There's a growing knowledge that something is terribly wrong with the way humanity is running its affairs. And it's much easier to deal with that knowledge if you pin all the blame on a shadowy cabal. A handful of evil men behind the scenes.

It's a natural reaction to forces beyond our control. We've been doing it since the dawn of time... we mythologise them. We personalise them. Give them a face (or at least a cigar-chomping silhouette). And because our minds are heavily orientated towards interpersonal relationships, this turns out to be an excellent coping strategy. It's far easier to deal with those forces, and the anxiety they cause, if we personalise them.

So, the weather ceases to be a frightening chaos and becomes the work of the Gods. And this immediately grants us control over it. If we only act in the right manner and offer the right gifts at the temple, then we'll be rewarded with the outcome we desire.

Similarly, if the chaos of the modern world gets too much, then reducing it to the machinations of a secret society brings it all back under control. Conscious human control, even if not our own. The world is the way it is because of an evil plan, runs the myth. And it's a myth that begs for a final act in which the secret society is defeated and the evil plan replaced with a good plan. It's a myth that seems dystopian at first glance, but holds within it the seeds of a utopian dream.

I completely get it. But, sadly, the world is not the way it is because of an evil plan. The world is the way it is because of a hundred million bad decisions; some big but mostly small ones. Thoughtlessness, carelessness, a lack of vision and foresight... all mixed up with a healthy dose of petty greed and sheer laziness. These are the root cause of the cracks appearing in our world.

And while I'm a great believer in the power of myth -- more so than most -- I'm also aware that there are times when it's not appropriate. Times when it obscures the truth rather than communicates it.

See, these shadowy groups of wealthy men do exist in boardrooms, country clubs and mansions. They do make decisions that enrich themselves at the expense of the masses. And they do give the orders that send troops into battle. But it's only when you see those people as symptoms of a systemic problem, rather than the cause, that we will ever hope to change the way things are.

And, like helvellyn, I have to admit that I find myself irritated at the way radical social analysis can be dismissed out of hand by people who are able to dress it up in a tinfoil-hat, thanks to the more silly aspects of the conspiracy myth.
zephiloyd
66 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 05, 2010, 02:11
mingtp wrote:
Zephiloyd, I say this in good humour with good intention because I once thought similarly:

1. You are preaching, whilst not to the choir, but to a forum inhabited by pretty switched on people. But, preaching you are.


I've read around the forum and no, you are not switched on to the material I speak of

mingtp wrote:


2. You may not know it yet, but you are in danger of becoming crippled by paranoia. Yes, we all know that global power elites exist and that they do nasty stuff, but most conspiracy theories are not "truth" - did you know that one of the signs of psychotic thinking is the drawing of sweeping conclusions from limited evidence? If you start to see connections everywhere, it's time to lay off the weed. Trust me.



Crap! Most conspiracy theories are true. Limited evidence? The evidence I have seen, re-asserts the conspiracies over and over. I have tried to debunk it but I cannot. I spend 4 hours a day, researching this, I could spend all day, and would not have enough time. I have been doing it for a year. The wealth of evidence is overwhelming. I am actively involved in a growing local group, attempting to educate local people about the fluoride scam, the vaccine scam and the money scam.

Do you know that, after investigating the evidence, 1200 architects and engineers do not believe the offical story of 9/11, and many of the families of the dead do not either.

I don't smoke weed
mingtp wrote:


3. David Icke is a cunt. Here's why: he makes money from selling delusions (lizards? pur-lease) to vulnerable people. And he's an anti-Semite. I saw the thread title you posted and thought, "could be a giggle" but switched off the moment you cited David Icke. He's a cunt as much as George W. Bush is a cunt. Only without the body-count.



Your attitude to the lizards, simply re-inforces the notion that you haven't spent time researching this because it does not conform to your existing thought process. It is so easy to be collectivist and form group mentality over seemingly wayward ideas and mock them without further research. Indigineous population's history throughout the world all talk of lizard gods. He has written books on the subject and you think a one sentence dismisal is adequate, please don't insult me. You have no idea what is round the corner have you? Do you realise that the final leg of the Mayan Calendar, which was given to the Mayan's by Quetzalcoatl, a Reptillian God, begins in 4 months and finishes in a year, marking the end of creation. the calendar began 5125 years ago. These are incredible times, and some amazing stuff is about to happen, but it is sad that JC doesn't talk about this stuff.

David Icke is an anti-semetic!

that is pathetic. Who sold you that view? As I have already said there is an active campaign against conspiracy threorists in every mainstream outlet. So they say things like "he is an anti-semitic, because when he says Reptilians, he really means Jews" and you go, "gosh, well I had better not go there, these are decent well intentioned people, I believe that therefore he should be ignored, he is mad, and he thinks he is the son of god, and is an anti-semite". You speak as though I had not heard that view before, you may as well be any mainstream media writer, I thought better of a JC fan. this is a tiresome predictable stereotypical uninformed response.

I know! try reading his books, try listening to his many talks on youtube, I bet you didn't know he was actively involved in exposing the establishment's paedophile rings which the media have covered up. The biggest story of the year is the Hollie Greg scandal, but I bet none of you have even heard of her.

So far I am unimpressed by the responses. Has anybody watched the material I have posted? All of it is proveable!

Visit the David Icke forum or Alex Jones' PrisonPlanet forum for real info and debate.
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