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Kemper Boyd 3 posts |
Jun 18, 2018, 15:34
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https://www.shiiineon.com/blog/interview-julian-cope/
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Monganaut 2370 posts |
Jun 18, 2018, 16:08
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Cheers, good read. So he's back living outside Tamworth somewhere, or did I read that wrong? Other than Cope and Gang of Four that festival looks rubbish. Not sure I'll stump up 60 quid just fer Cope and G4.
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Kemper Boyd 3 posts |
Jun 18, 2018, 16:44
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Ta. Yep, still Tamworth way, in amongst the elements
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ottospooky 62 posts |
Jun 18, 2018, 18:22
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I’ll chip in by agreeing that was a fantastic read! Things have been quiet site-wide for some time now so it’s good to read a long and insightful interview! Looking forward to reading the Prophets book, whenever it’s out.
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Kemper Boyd 3 posts |
Jun 19, 2018, 08:32
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Tab Otto, it was a privilege to put the questions to him, could have gassed for hours.
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Adamaunt 5 posts |
Edited Jan 14, 2019, 20:03
Jan 14, 2019, 20:01
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Good read. One thing he's wrong about is this: "I’m married to an American and she’s very unlike Americans, but, she’s got that ‘international overview’ that Americans have, travelled and she knows Britain is brilliant because she’s been to so many other places." I take it his wife is from a well-off family. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck these days and seldom travel anywhere. The upper bourgeois classes travel, but to generalize that to just "Americans" gives a very false perception of the place as a whole. I lived in South Brooklyn for 10 years and most of my neighbors (excluding all the Russians) seldom even travelled to Manhattan, seldom even left the neighborhood. And they all hated Obama. Hope they're enjoying the guy they wanted now that he's in power.
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Edited Jan 16, 2019, 00:36
Jan 16, 2019, 00:32
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Yeah they probably know that it doesn't really matter who you vote for if you are always on the breadline. No wonder they hated Obama - he bombed Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan despite none of those countries ever showing aggression towards Amerika. He was awarded the most Ironic Nobel Peace Prize ever handed out. Obama was at war with an unaggressive country which had never attacked Amerika for every single day of his tenure in the White House. Sometimes five at once. Obama just posed as Liberal but was a Hawk and more warlike than any other President in the last fifty years. Obama started - and with Hillary ran - more US wars of aggression than ANY other US President in History. The guy they have there now hasn't started a single war. He's a mouthy, kinda unappealling guy but he comes from a country full of those types. That current White House incumbent is just less warlike than every one of his predecessors for the last fifty years.
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spencer 3068 posts |
Jan 16, 2019, 11:11
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...but he's got ultra hawk John Bolton who asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for attacking Iran before Xmas.
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tk421 121 posts |
Jan 16, 2019, 16:34
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[quote="Howburn Digger"]Yeah they probably know that it doesn't really matter who you vote for if you are always on the breadline. No wonder they hated Obama ... He was awarded the most Ironic Nobel Peace Prize ever handed out. I raise you David Trimble ...
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Adamaunt 5 posts |
Edited Jan 16, 2019, 21:40
Jan 16, 2019, 21:24
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Howburn Digger wrote: Yeah they probably know that it doesn't really matter who you vote for if you are always on the breadline. No wonder they hated Obama - he bombed Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan despite none of those countries ever showing aggression towards Amerika. He was awarded the most Ironic Nobel Peace Prize ever handed out. Obama was at war with an unaggressive country which had never attacked Amerika for every single day of his tenure in the White House. Sometimes five at once. Obama just posed as Liberal but was a Hawk and more warlike than any other President in the last fifty years. Obama started - and with Hillary ran - more US wars of aggression than ANY other US President in History. The guy they have there now hasn't started a single war. He's a mouthy, kinda unappealling guy but he comes from a country full of those types. That current White House incumbent is just less warlike than every one of his predecessors for the last fifty years. Well, you may be giving my former neighbors in South Brooklyn a bit too much credit re their knowledge of world affairs. They all flew American flags, and were suspicious of me because I didn't (and I certainly didn't tell them I was a member of the Liberal Party of Canada). They didn't know anything about world affairs except for being exceptionally proud of their "Irish" heritage (again, we're talking the remnants of a dying breed of "old Brooklyn" as most people I ran into in stores or on the street spoke Russian). When I asked if they'd heard of James Joyce, they had no clue what I was talking about. Then I asked if they'd even been to Ireland? Nope. I asked if they'd been to Boston, where I had lived previously and which is probably the most "Irish" city in America? Nope. As I said, they didn't even venture as far as Manhattan, though they did make an outing to Coney Island once a year. Obama was no doubt a corporate Dem and the deporter in chief (he quietly deported migrants at a higher rate than Trump). And yes, his Nobel Prize was a joke. Wishful thinking. But from what I could tell, that wasn't the problem they had with him. There were some more affluent blacks buying homes on "their" street, as well as Asians and lots of Russians who seemed to be loaded with money. They generally resented all of this and blamed it on Obama. These people were like a throwback to Hubert Selby's great novel, Last Exit to Brooklyn. By the time I left, many of them were hooked on oxy and as well as selling it, and there were usually flashing lights from cops and/or EMT services there picking up overdoses and sorting out fights almost every night. When I left I sold my house to a Muslim guy, and I found out later they attacked him and one of them is being sentenced today, I believe, to a spell in Rikers prison for hate crimes. The same guy's baby mama overdosed on oxy and died not long after I left, and their kid will now be in the hands of "the system." He never had a chance. This unfortunately seems to make up much of Trump's constituency. His current government shutdown will hurt many of them who depend on welfare and child support from the government. As will it hurt the farmers who are being clobbered by his tariffs on soybeans in places like North Dakota. But many will stick with Trump no matter what. He may be a trust fund brat, but he knows how to speak their language. I was just struck by Julian's view of Americans as having this "international view" of life in that recent interview. Yes, the upper bourgeois in America may have that. But about 70% of Americans now live paycheck to paycheck, and have a very narrow view of the world. What I lived in was more often like a daily live version of the Jerry Springer show.
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