I simply don't get most any 'alternative' band that came after Nirvana, especially anything EMO. Most of it is just contrived or unlistenable. I just talked to a friend who is a club owner, and he had the same view as myself. Just a bunch of stupid kids who want to be REM/Joy Division/Ramones but with zero-inspiration and increased narcissism. Why does it come out sounding like blase hash? The way critics describe this crap it sounds like I should like it, but it only sounds good on paper.