Popel Vooje
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 09, 2010, 20:04
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thesweetcheat wrote: Popel Vooje wrote: The Fall - Totale's Turns
Actually, you're right. This is the one I should have picked.
Of all the live Fall albums it definitely has the best audience/performer/band, relationship, shall we say.
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thesweetcheat
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 09, 2010, 20:38
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Popel Vooje wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: Popel Vooje wrote: The Fall - Totale's Turns
Actually, you're right. This is the one I should have picked.
Of all the live Fall albums it definitely has the best audience/performer/band, relationship, shall we say.
Nicely put.
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Stevo
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 09, 2010, 22:43
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Every entry I can see for line up on the 10 1/2 lp has Stevenson replaced by Anthony Martinez who was the next guy after him. i thought Kira was suffering from Carpal Tunnel syndrome or something very similar by that point.
Stevo
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Dog 3000
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 00:44
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Aw shucks, I thought that was the same lineup. Still a memorable live album from back in the day, though Black Flag did several live albums.
I probably need to hear this one then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%2784
I do think Kira's bass was distinctive and important -- she had the patience to hold things down in a trancelike manner while Ginn did his spazzy stuff. She plays on all of their "jammier" albums starting with "Slip It In" through their final studio album (Ginn played the bass himself on "My War.") Though after she quit (carpal tunnel had something to do with it and also college), they did play some more gigs before throwing in the towel less than a year later.
And Stevenson is a terrific drummer, one of the best of the punk era -- he left Black Flag for The Descendents and All (that's the band called "ALL" I mean.)
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Stevo
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Edited Sep 10, 2010, 08:54
Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 08:47
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Dog 3000 wrote: Aw shucks, I thought that was the same lineup. Still a memorable live album from back in the day, though Black Flag did several live albums.
I probably need to hear this one then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%2784
Could be that is the audio to the dvd the clip you linked to was from. don't think that was Leeds & I do think it had some effects applied.
But I don't think it's as good as the Marquee show, but that might be cos I'm more familiar with the Marquee show. I was in the audience, then got given a tape a few years later. It was circulated by somebody else on various torrent sites a while back. I keep hearing more of a link wrayish influence than elsewhere.
Dog 3000 wrote:
I do think Kira's bass was distinctive and important -- she had the patience to hold things down in a trancelike manner while Ginn did his spazzy stuff. She plays on all of their "jammier" albums starting with "Slip It In" through their final studio album
she later married Mike watt and they had the bass duo Dos together.
She was the sister of the Screamers Paul Roessler too
Dog 3000 wrote:
(Ginn played the bass himself on "My War.") Though after she quit (carpal tunnel had something to do with it and also college), they did play some more gigs before throwing in the towel less than a year later.
I don't think much of what I've heard of the later line-up. Doesn't have the groove or swing of Roessler/Stevenson.
Dog 3000 wrote:
And Stevenson is a terrific drummer, one of the best of the punk era -- he left Black Flag for The Descendents and All (that's the band called "ALL" I mean.)
read in This Band could Be your Life last night that Stevenson was not greatly enamoured of the direction he helped create, thinking Flag were a good twisted punk band rather than a twisted metal one.
But utterly awesome nonetheless to me anyway. Think they were despised for going 'metal' but their sound is really prescient of later stoner rock.
Stevo
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Moon Cat
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 14:45
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Rick Wakeman was my firsy rock gig too. A cat thing perhaps? I'd been to a few classical ones, but Rick Wakeman doing "Journey" at the Crystal Palace Bowl with Gryphon & Procul Harum as support was my rock thing. Think I was about 6 or 7.
Also, I'm proud to say that I also attended Rick W's grandest folly, that being "King Arthur...on Ice" at the Wembley Arena. It's usually wheeled out in rock history as the nadir of prog's silly excesses but fuck it, when you're 8 and watching knights skate around and fight each other to bombastic Arthurian tunes, rock history can suck bum - this was ace!
And they did the entirety of "Journey.." as the encore! Result!
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 15:02
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Wow! You lucky so and so. He also recently did 6 Wives at Hampton Court. That must have been a wonderful gig.
I've never had a problem with 'Arthur' on Ice. How cool. What is there not to like ?!
For you Moony:
http://ladystarlightnyc.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/rick-wakeman-0-0-0x0-295x409.jpg
It's a Cat Thing.
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smrt
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 15:24
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Robot Emperor wrote: One Live Badger. A debut album which is also a live album. Is this unique? Produced by Jon Anderson at the concert Yessongs was recorded. Have never met anyone else who likes it. Even people who think Yes went downhill after Tony Kaye left.
MC5's 'Kick Out The Jams' was also their debut. As was A II Z 'The Witch of Berkeley' and Mean Street Dealers 'Bent Needles'. Think the debut from Quartz was too.
Can't think of others just yet.
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Moon Cat
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Edited Sep 10, 2010, 15:34
Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 15:34
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Was Vardis' "100mph" a live debut album?
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smrt
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Re: Live Albums
Sep 10, 2010, 15:54
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Moon Cat wrote: Was Vardis' "100mph" a live debut album?
Could be. Had stopped buying their records after the first few singles.
Thought of a couple more debuts from the eighties,
Twelth Night - Live At the Target
Pallas - Arrive Alive (this one was only a tape though at the time)
and how about
Planet Gong - Floating Anarchy
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