IanB
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Edited Feb 09, 2010, 14:56
BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 14:41
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Anyone watch this? Genius programme and great to hear due deference being paid to Larry Harlow. What a genius arranger that guy is.
Dug out my old copies of "Nuestra Cosa" and "Salsa - The Movie" for the first time in years. Fantastic stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on why 70s Latin music not generally considered to be as cool as say Roots Reggae. Is it the language barrier or the James Last Orchestra / Johnny Wad styling?
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Vybik Jon
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 14:55
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It saddens me, but latin music produces a massively 'no' reaction in me. I have no idea why that is, but it's been that way as far back as I can remember.
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Squid Tempest
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:14
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Vybik Jon wrote: It saddens me, but latin music produces a massively 'no' reaction in me. I have no idea why that is, but it's been that way as far back as I can remember.
Presumably the latin jazz section of your record collection is somewhat lacking then.
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Vybik Jon
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:16
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You had to do it, didn't you?
You had to mention the j*zz word.
Exepct a visit from my brother in the very near future.
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anthonyqkiernan
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:20
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I thought this thread was about Thomas Tallis
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zphage
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:22
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IanB wrote: Anyone watch this? Genius programme and great to hear due deference being paid to Larry Harlow. What a genius arranger that guy is.
Dug out my old copies of "Nuestra Cosa" and "Salsa - The Movie" for the first time in years. Fantastic stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on why 70s Latin music not generally considered to be as cool as say Roots Reggae. Is it the language barrier or the James Last Orchestra / Johnny Wad styling?
It doesn't need to be considered cool. It is still very vibrant. It was part of Ny punk scene via Kid Creole. Plus the poly rhythms are not easy for most to pick up and play.
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IanB
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Edited Feb 09, 2010, 15:45
Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:41
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zphage wrote: IanB wrote: Anyone watch this? Genius programme and great to hear due deference being paid to Larry Harlow. What a genius arranger that guy is.
Dug out my old copies of "Nuestra Cosa" and "Salsa - The Movie" for the first time in years. Fantastic stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on why 70s Latin music not generally considered to be as cool as say Roots Reggae. Is it the language barrier or the James Last Orchestra / Johnny Wad styling?
It doesn't need to be considered cool. It is still very vibrant. It was part of Ny punk scene via Kid Creole. Plus the poly rhythms are not easy for most to pick up and play.
Well no. Objectively it doesn't have to be cool but given that rock n roll is a culture ruled by measurements made in degrees of cool of one kind or another it has an impact on which "foreign" musics get accepted and which don't. The Kid Creole thing was considered a bit of a fad here and spawned some awful domestic imitators( Blue Rondo, Modern Romance, Havana Lets Go etc). I like the first two Kid Creole lps a lot but Ze's post punk and straight up mutant disco records are probably more highly considered. Rightly or wrongly.
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zphage
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 15:47
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Latin music infused rock in the early 70's with Santana's arrival: Blues Image, Crabby Appleton's 1st, Malo, Harlem River Drive, Paladin's 2nd, Stoneground, etc.
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Squid Tempest
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Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 16:34
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Oh heck. I'm off...
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IanB
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Edited Feb 09, 2010, 16:49
Re: BBC Latin Series Part 2
Feb 09, 2010, 16:41
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zphage wrote: Latin music infused rock in the early 70's with Santana's arrival: Blues Image, Crabby Appleton's 1st, Malo, Harlem River Drive, Paladin's 2nd, Stoneground, etc.
Absolutely. Doesn't mean that rock fans are/were ready to embrace the whole culture though. At least twenty JA reggae acts got absorbed into the mainstream in the 70s and got sales to match
Marley, Tosh, Bunny Wailer, Third World, Burning Spear, Junior Murvin, I Roy, U Roy, Lee Perry, Big Youth, Toots, John Holt, Johnny Clarke, Culture, Mighty Diamonds, Tapper Zukie, Prince Far I, Max Romeo, Heptones, Black Uhuru, Dennis Brown, Gregory Issacs, Gladiators spring quickly to mind and I am sure there are loads more if I thought about it for another ten minutes. Maybe it was the Island / Virgin thing.
How many core Fania style artists had the same luck with rock audiences in the 70s? Not that many. Ruben Blades in the 80s. Not too many others spring to mind. Latin kind of got stuck in the World Music grab-bag. At least it did over here. Reggae was considered to be a socially / politically and musically vital.
Which is bizarre when you think of the political aspect of Latin music and what an important role the Latin countries played (for one reason or another) in western leftist politics of the 70s and 80s. Not to mention how many great records there were coming out of the Fania stable and well before the Kid Creole / Savannah Band thing started up. African and Indian artists also had an easier time crossing over to rock audiences.
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