i finally got around to playing it all last night once id managed to get the box out of the stupid cardboard sleeves that cope seems to love so much the plastic case is flimsy but does the job there are two discs which is crap as there should only be one and the argument for two could have easily been dealt with by a short gap between sides as for the music its not that impressive it just sounds like cope to me with the standout being some great guitar licks by doggen this hasnt move cope forward musically at all but cain is now done and dusted just as smile has been file under cope and thats about it
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