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thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Labour to win? Surely not...
Jun 09, 2017, 19:22
PS I love Robert MacFarlane. He posts a "phrase of the day" on Twitter that's usually related to landscape or nature, some really lovely stuff.

Today he posted this:

Phrase of the day: "hoist by one's own petard" - to have one's plans backfire disastrously; to be destroyed by one's own plot.
carol27
761 posts

Re: Labour to win? Surely not...
Jun 09, 2017, 19:35
thesweetcheat wrote:
There is a real risk that by putting DUP into a coalition, Westminster's ongoing neutrality towards the NI parties will be dangerously compromised.


I don't see that there's any doubt about that tsc
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: Labour to win? Surely not...
Jun 09, 2017, 20:07
Locodogz wrote:
Sanctuary - thats very gracious - you said you'd come back and you have

As you know I'm on the other side of the divide on this one and am (now) hopeful of a slightly softer Brexit. That said, I genuinely hope whatever the outcome, I hope it works for you and yours


Thanks Locodogz, appreciated. I hope it eventually works out for all of us. I also hope to see you on another thread where maybe we can all discuss something much less dividing.
Cheers
Monganaut
Monganaut
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Re: Labour to win? Surely not...
Jun 09, 2017, 20:32
Great result for labour, not a win by any stretch, but a bloody nose for Tory arrogance who thought they were untouchable. Gotta be one of the most disastrous political campaigns in British political history, it's almost like she didn't want the job. Still surprised how well the right did in Scotland, but it looks like independence might be on the back burner for a while. Still not sure how they are gonna tackle the brexit issue, esp. since the Tories have a weaker hand now. Got so engrossed in things last night I stayed up till the end, it was great TV, esp the ITV coverage (was flicking between channels most of the night).

This track is still as apt as it was back in the 80's, shold have been Jezza's battle cry....

Newtown Neurotics - Kick Out the Tories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRtFqoVW6k
phallus dei
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Re: Labour to win? Surely not...
Jun 09, 2017, 23:00
Impressive win for Labour; as a foreigner I don't know the details precisely, though I do feel heartened that so many Britons were able to disregard the MSM narrative that Corbyn was an "extremist," "unelectable", etc. It would be great if Labour is able to rid itself of Tony Blair-style neoliberalism; such an example would also help the US Democrats move in the right direction (though I fear it is too late for the Democrats). Anyway, well done!
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Kensington
Jun 10, 2017, 05:57
Finally called for Labour by 20 votes. Unbelievable that Kensington has a Labour MP elected on a "tax the rich" manifesto.

Two nice ironies about that one, Daily Mail HQ is now in a Labour constituency and Victoria Borwick the defeated Conservative MP was the main protagonist in getting the total ivory ban pledge taken out of the Tory manifesto.
nigelswift
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Edited Jun 10, 2017, 06:42
Re: Kensington
Jun 10, 2017, 06:41
You'd have to say losing a constituency where the average house price is in the multi-millions is "careless" and my guess is the long knives will be used on Theresa quite soon.

As for Lady Vicky, boohoo. On the other hand, indirectly persecuting modern elephants by tolerating trade in antique elephants is still Government policy. Dunno what the DUP think about elephants but they're not the sort to lobby for change I'd have thought.

Incidentally, I hear one of their negotiating demands is that the dinosaur skeletons must be taken out of the Natural History museum....
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
5878 posts

Re: Kensington
Jun 10, 2017, 07:05
nigelswift wrote:

Incidentally, I hear one of their negotiating demands is that the dinosaur skeletons must be taken out of the Natural History museum....


Hahaha, just as well the plaster Dippy has already gone. Hang on, did NHM have insider knowledge? Maybe the blue whale will come complete with a symbolic Jonah. I'm guessing the Darwin statue might be another cause for concern.

They seem nice though, the DUP. To be fair we were warned by the press that we could have a government backed by terrorist sympathisers and that religious extremism was a threat to our democracy.
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Kensington
Jun 10, 2017, 07:05
nigelswift wrote:

Incidentally, I hear one of their negotiating demands is that the dinosaur skeletons must be taken out of the Natural History museum....


Hahaha, just as well the plaster Dippy has already gone. Hang on, did NHM have insider knowledge? Maybe the blue whale will come complete with a symbolic Jonah. I'm guessing the Darwin statue might be another cause for concern.

They seem nice though, the DUP. To be fair we were warned by the press that we could have a government backed by terrorist sympathisers and that religious extremism was a threat to our democracy.
nigelswift
7434 posts

Edited Jun 10, 2017, 07:27
Re: Kensington
Jun 10, 2017, 07:26
One thing we've lost is "the belief difference". The Jihadi belief about a terrorist act getting you straight to paradise with loads of virgins could be derided and sharply contrasted with our own "rationality". But now, with a Government existing entirely thanks to a party containing a proportion of crackpots who believe the earth is "young", the contrast has completely shrunk.

Are we to tell them our outrageous fairy story is superior to theirs?
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