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Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail in '72 - Hunter
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Edited Feb 10, 2017, 05:44
Re: Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail in '72 - Hunter
Feb 10, 2017, 05:43
Thanks for the detailed response. You brought up quite a few points. Sorry if I don't respond to them all.

I like your analysis that so-called "Social justice warriors" (although to be fair, I don't think they call themselves that) are a product of the internet generation, which causes them to adopt more strident views when dealing with people in person. That is a persuasive point which I hadn't considered.

I agree wholeheartedly with your warning not to lump whole groups under categories - whether they be "fascist left" or "fascist Trump supporters" or fascist whatever. While polarization is probably inescapable at any time of severe crisis - and I think that the neo-conservative / neo-liberal (it's the same thing) agenda which has dominated the last 40 years is indeed entering its terminal phase - we should try, as much as possible, to remain aware of nuance.

The main issue I want to address in your comment, though, is that I'm not at all convinced that Obama was somehow better than Bush. The crimes he (and other Western leaders) committed against Libya and Syria truly rank as crimes against humanity. Those countries have been absolutely destroyed, and under false pretenses. I encourage you to do research into this if you haven't already. What you will find is sickening. When you add to this all the other coups that America planned out during Obama's reign (Honduras,Ukraine, destabilization in Venezuela,etc), Obama's character becomes abundantly clear. Personally, I'd rate Obama as worse than Bush, simply because with Bush you knew you were getting an asshole.

Trump during his campaign spoke frequently about how America ruined Libya, Syria, and Iraq. He talked about working with Putin instead of continuing our ridiculous Cold War 2.0. Those are great comments in my view. Certainly much better than anything Hilary was saying.

I agree that the problems of American government are not just related to Obama or Hilary or Bush. It is an entire system. One of the things that made me realize Trump is a genuine alternative from the status quo was when the entire system started attacking him. Not just Democrats, but many leading Republicans, the entire establishment media, almost all of academia. All the people that have either looked the other way or directly profited from our imperialist system started to label Trump a fascist. What absolute fucking hypocrites.

BTW, I also identify with the left (though with the "New Left" the shook the West in the 60s and 70s, not the current identity-politics left). In an ideal world Trump, Bannon & Co would be far from my "ideal" leaders. But we don't live in an ideal world, and so I pick the side which is clearly the lesser evil.

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