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thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Week 1 in the White House
Jan 29, 2017, 09:58
laresident wrote:
It seems that Calexit is on the cards. California wants out. Dear old Jerry Brown was even saying that we can send up our own satellites to monitor the earth's climate after Trump shuts down NASA.


Bit sad that monitoring climate change is becoming a subversive activity

If it's any consolation I am utterly disgusted with the craven UK government too, "Peace in our time" seems the appeasement order of the day.
phallus dei
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Edited Jan 29, 2017, 14:16
Re: Week 1 in the White House
Jan 29, 2017, 14:14
thesweetcheat wrote:
phallus dei wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Quite. There's currently a large protest against the Muslim ban going on at JFK airport, so there is a resistance.


It's not a "Muslim ban," but a three-month delay before allowing people from seven Muslim nations to enter the US. Muslims from other Muslim nations, and Muslims elsewhere, aren't affected.

One can certainly argue whether or not the policy is justified, but the policy should at least be presented for what it is, and not made into something it's not.

Also, Obama imposed a six-month ban on Iraqi immigrants entering the US in 2011.


Interesting how no-one from any of those seven countries has been responsible for acts of terror in the US. Whereas the countries where the 9/11 terrorists came from are not included. And that Trump has property and the US has trade deals with those unaffected countries.

And let's be honest, far more Americans are killed by other Americans with guns than by Muslims from anywhere. Call it what you want, it's not a pretty policy.


Agree that it's a stupid policy that will won't have an impact in reducing terror attacks in the US. To be fair, though, the seven countries that Trump singled out had previously been designated as sources of terrorism by the Obama administration. The media-promoted narrative that Trump is intentionally trying to protect his business assets isn't credible in this case- a more plausible scenario is that he's building on steps begun during the previous administration, but taking it further. Here's a blog that explains -

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
Sin Agog
Sin Agog
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Re: Week 1 in the White House
Jan 30, 2017, 13:32
Been a few days and Trump's already spearheaded an assault which ended up with 16 women and children dead. So, yeah, he's just going to pick up the mantle from the last few prezzes and this isolationist line is a bag of shite. Good job being manipulated.
phallus dei
583 posts

Re: Week 1 in the White House
Jan 30, 2017, 18:02
Sin Agog wrote:
Been a few days and Trump's already spearheaded an assault which ended up with 16 women and children dead. So, yeah, he's just going to pick up the mantle from the last few prezzes and this isolationist line is a bag of shite. Good job being manipulated.


The incident you mentioned is terrible and should indeed be protested. But it's way too early to say that Trump's isolationist line is shit. Politics is almost never a choice between good and evil, but simply a search for the lesser evil. After a year we will have enough data to reasonably decide if Trump is simply continuing the Clinton-Bush-Obama line of imperial expansion, or if he is indeed doing something new (or at least going slower than his predecessors).
Markoid
Markoid
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Edited Feb 03, 2017, 22:02
Re: Week 1 in the White House
Feb 01, 2017, 03:04
phallus dei wrote:
Sin Agog wrote:
Been a few days and Trump's already spearheaded an assault which ended up with 16 women and children dead. So, yeah, he's just going to pick up the mantle from the last few prezzes and this isolationist line is a bag of shite. Good job being manipulated.


The incident you mentioned is terrible and should indeed be protested. But it's way too early to say that Trump's isolationist line is shit. Politics is almost never a choice between good and evil, but simply a search for the lesser evil. After a year we will have enough data to reasonably decide if Trump is simply continuing the Clinton-Bush-Obama line of imperial expansion, or if he is indeed doing something new (or at least going slower than his predecessors).



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