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Rhiannon
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Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 08:29
I got a very horrible feeling listening to that man speak this morning. It's like the word demagogue was invented for him. And although he's talking complete and utter rot, people will vote for him (because people are gullible idiots).

"I have a message for all of you: The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon — and I mean very soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

"To make life safe in America, we must also address the growing threats from outside the country. We are going to defeat the barbarians of ISIS. And we are going to defeat them bad."

"History is watching us now. It's we don't have much time. We don't have much time. It's waiting to see if we will rise to the occasion, and if we will show the whole world that America is still free and independent and strong. I am asking for your support tonight so that I can be your champion in the White House. And I will be a champion.Your champion. "

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12253426/donald-trump-acceptance-speech-transcript-republican-nomination-transcript

Donald Trump, billionaire, champion of the people. Now there's a man who wouldn't hesitate to press the button.
tjj
tjj
3313 posts

Re: Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 10:27
Very, very scary. While the population of the UK are left with this choice ...

"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them." (Karl Marx)

The Americans look to someone they have been told is 'self-made' - only he wasn't. He always had his father's wealth behind him. A gentle, reflective, East Coast woman I have got known via social media is now talking about her dystopian country, where she wants things to go back to being ordinary (sort of rings a bell). She is also talking about having that pill of poison handy - the future looks bleak. I heard a young woman who represents Republicans Abroad talking this morning - she said she would not be voting for Trump or Clinton and America needs a third alternative option, apparently there is one growing, though I am not yet familiar with it.
Kid Calamity
8933 posts

Re: Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 12:34
Expect a flood of American immigrants to hit European shores if he gets into office. The thicko xenophobes and bullies will then cut themselves off behind walls and trade embargos.
Stevo
Stevo
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 12:49
HOw heavily is his power limited by existing infrastructure if he did actually get in?

The current situation with the world is looking very dour. But is it always/
I have been sitting with the BBC news channel on in the background which I wasn't before Brexit. Just might be more aware of events because of it.

But am wondering if there is a millennialist thought behind things. If every thing that could go wrong from my perspective lines up is it somebody else's idea of the correct line up for the Kingdom to come?
dhajjieboy
913 posts

Re: Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 13:46
He's not gonna be the next president.
Hillary is.
The only thing making 'him' what he is, is the media.
And.....the republican party repeating, over and over again, the same bald face lies.....
For years now.
Some of the responses in this thread are kinda' funny !
Suicide Poison pills and mass exodus to Europe.....
The sky is falling !
Keep 'em coming ......
The world could use a little more mass hysteria.
Rhiannon
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 22, 2016, 20:04
you'd be surprised how many people in the UK thought brexit was impossible too. Including some of the people who voted for it.
laresident
laresident
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 24, 2016, 02:57
Trump. The horror!
Watch out though, what we get, soon shows up in Britain also.
stray
stray
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 25, 2016, 10:32
laresident wrote:
Trump. The horror!
Watch out though, what we get, soon shows up in Britain also.



We're way ahead of you, we've already voted for isolationism here with Brexit.
Robot Emperor
Robot Emperor
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 25, 2016, 15:39
He was arguably the least offensive of the Republican candidates though. The following thumbnail portraits cribbed from Eliot Weinburger in the lrb...

They could have picked... Rick Santorum, opposed [not only]to abortion, but all forms of contraception, even among married couples. (‘It’s a licence to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.’) He has said that a child conceived by rape is a ‘gift from God’, and compared homosexuality to ‘man-on-dog’ sex. He signed a pledge written by the religious group Family Leader that life for African Americans was better under slavery. He has claimed that the ‘American left hates Christendom’, that separation of church and state is a communist idea, that ‘radical feminism’ has given women the idea that it is ‘socially affirming’ to ‘work outside the home’, and that schools in Massachusetts have banned children’s books featuring heterosexual parents. His wife home-schools their seven children, and he believes that education is the responsibility of parents, not ‘government workers’, otherwise known as teachers. When Obama proposed a plan to make universities more affordable, he commented: ‘President Obama wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob!’

They could have picked... Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas, whose personal summer hunting camp was called ‘Niggerhead’. He is the author of On My Honor: Why the American Values of the Boy Scouts Are Worth Fighting for and Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington. He has said that ‘there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.’ The American Cowboy Culture Association has given Perry its ‘Top Cowboy of Texas’ award. He wears boots with the word ‘Liberty’ embossed on them, and bragged that he shot a coyote that was bothering his dog when he was out jogging. (In Texas, one presumably jogs with weapons.) As he said, ‘I happily cling to my guns and my God, even if President Obama thinks that that is a simpleminded thing in his elitist heart.’ At one point in 2012 he was the frontrunner, but his campaign crashed when, in a debate, he pledged to eliminate three cabinet-level government agencies, but couldn’t remember the third. Unfortunately this time, his frequent factual confusions (the legal voting age, the century when the US became independent, the location of Juarez, Mexico) did not dispel the rumours that, as a Republican governor anonymously remarked, ‘he’s like George W. Bush, but without the brains.’ When asked how old the earth is – a Creationist litmus test – Perry said he doesn’t have ‘any idea’: ‘I know it’s pretty old. So it goes back a long, long way.’

They could have picked... Bobby Jindal, the former governor of Louisiana, who bankrupted his state by drastically cutting taxes on the rich – after unsuccessfully attempting to eliminate all personal and corporate taxes. Born Piyush Jindal, a Hindu, he converted to Catholicism and renamed himself after a character on the 1970s television comedy The Brady Bunch. A graduate of Brown and a Rhodes scholar, he cut state funding for higher education by 80 per cent and instituted a law allowing the teaching of Creationism in science classes. Although Louisiana is one of the poorest states, Jindal remained firm in his opposition to Washington and refused hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants for health, welfare and education. He believes that America is mired in a ‘silent war’ between Christians and the left, but his advocacy of ‘religious liberty’ – for example, the right of a business to refuse to serve a gay couple – does not extend to Muslims, whom he would monitor and regulate. He has claimed that parts of Europe are ‘no-go zones’ under Sharia law, where police authorities are terrified to go and where women must wear veils, but, in a television interview, could not name any specific examples.

And on and on. Find it here :

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n15/eliot-weinberger/they-could-have-picked

One more (apologies to lrb and Mr Weinberger), this made me laugh out loud (try and find the picture of Christ with Dr Carson, its awesome)...

They could have picked Dr Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, who, with his unfocused gaze and mumbled rambles about the ‘fruit salad of life’, often seemed as though he’d spent too much time in the hospital pharmacy. An African American, he called Obamacare ‘the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery’, declaring it to be, in fact, ‘slavery in a way’, because its passage was part of a larger Leninist push to impose communism on America. He said that if people want to know the truth about President Obama, they should simply ‘read Mein Kampf’ and the works of Lenin, and that ‘if there were no Fox News and if there was no conservative radio, we would already be Cuba. I know [Obama] realises that they’re impeding his agenda of fundamentally transforming this nation into something else.’

In one of the debates, Carson suddenly announced that he had inside information about Chinese troops in Syria, but he became better known for his Egyptology: ‘My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it, and I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.’ He has also explained that the ‘Adversary’, Satan himself, entered the heart and mind of Charles Darwin and persuaded him to come up with the theory of evolution to undermine God’s word. He plans to write a book called The Organ of Species, ‘to talk about the organs of the body and how they completely refute evolution’. Donald Trump, for some reason, compared the somnambulist Carson to a child molester: ‘You don’t cure these people. You don’t cure a child molester. There’s no cure for it. Pathological, there’s no cure for that.’ In Carson’s home there is a large painting of Jesus with his hand on Dr Ben Carson’s shoulder.

Go Donald.
laresident
laresident
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Re: Donald Trump
Jul 25, 2016, 23:05
Sobering stuff. Thank you. It can all be much worse. I think his kids and wives need a tv show. Maybe like the Kardashians in the White House.
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