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riverman
riverman
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Re: If you want to hear some insane ramblings..
Jul 13, 2016, 14:32
carol27 wrote:
Ranting.. Sorry again. What " unelectable" in this context means is somebody who can't be bought ( recent tweet from an American who was tweeting about Bernie Sanders)


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/13/billionaires-bought-brexit-controlling-britains-political-system
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
888 posts

Re: Another own goal (that's about 6-0)
Jul 13, 2016, 15:45
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-leadership-contest-vote-jeremy-corbyn-new-members-momentum-vote-avoid-paying-25-fee-a7133851.html
tyroneshoelaces
38 posts

Re: The Future of the Labour Party
Jul 13, 2016, 16:57
A great many of today's MPs were imposed on constituency parties during the days of Blair to cement his legacy....
riverman
riverman
838 posts

Re: Another own goal (that's about 6-0)
Jul 13, 2016, 17:33
thesweetcheat wrote:
The Labour NEC have decided to block anyone who's joined the LP in the last two weeks from voting in the upcoming leadership election. Despite the fact that the recruiting campaign and the current LP website specifically promises that as a new member you'd get a vote in any leadership election. Ooops.

That's about 130,000 people blocked and probably permanently disengaged from the party before they've even got going. Ooops.

But you can pay £25 as a "supporter" and get a vote. Nicely priced to keep the poorest from getting a say (last September it was £3). Ooops.

Democracy, Labour 2016 style. Ooops.


Two of my colleagues were signing up to vote against Corbyn. They'll be pleased then.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
888 posts

Re: Another own goal (that's about 6-0)
Jul 13, 2016, 17:46
Shooting themselves in the foot really, as Unite and others are allowing people to join just to let people vote in leadership elections, so more power to the unions more people actually voting for Corbyn and less people (such as the two you mentioned) being able to vote against him!

Regardless of people's views this is appalling behaviour by the NEC!
Rhiannon
5237 posts

Owen Who?
Jul 13, 2016, 19:36
Sanctuary would be proud of me. This is just absurd
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/13/owen-smith-to-offer-referendum-on-brexit-deal-if-elected-labour-leader
What on earth is he on about? We'll be out by then (if we're really leaving). There'll be no going back. He can't offer a referendum. He's an idiot. AN IDIOT.

how much more of this

I'm going to have to stop listening / watching all this and think about fairies and beetles and stuff instead.
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
888 posts

Re: Owen Who?
Jul 13, 2016, 19:44
Absolute fucking bellend! Even his own CLP think he's a twat!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/owen-smith-iraq-war-working-2338066
Rhiannon
5237 posts

Re: Owen Who?
Jul 13, 2016, 19:58
He was "a senior lobbyist for pharmaceuticals giant Pfizer" before becoming an MP, according to that. I think I'd prefer towel-folding on a labour cv really.

radical and credible leader yeah yeah yeah
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
888 posts

Re: Owen Who?
Jul 13, 2016, 20:10
He's got no chance, he's not popular within the party. Eagle's a patsy but he's an opportunist.
woolybacque
woolybacque
30 posts

Re: Owen Who?
Jul 13, 2016, 20:31
here's a nice Ian Matthews song, Road To Ronderlin, to go with your thoughts...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsbExLXytLI
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