http://www.bbc.co.uk/politics It seeems even William Hague would have voted against had he been allowed. Ken Livingstone said this morning the action would be pointless without ground troops. It is where they would come from and to what ultimate end beyond the defeat of Daesh in Syria that is the issue. My greatest fear, if that is possible, is that they will be herded or shepherded towards the even greater powderkeg that is Lebanon.