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Razor Penguin 84 posts |
Sep 19, 2000, 18:20
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Just wanted to point out something in reference to your comment about mushrooms being organic & natural. There are tons of substances out there which are organic, natural, and also poisonous to living tissue. Hemlock is organic and natural. So are poison ivy, mildew (a fungus), and millions of plant-based compounds. In fact, if you walked through your neighborhood randomly chewing on leaves, needles, & what-have-you, you'd certainly get bloody sick. Some organic compounds are assimilable, but most are not. I realize that you weren't necessarily implying anything with your comment, Shrimp; but it gave me an opportunity to make a point. It's a common misconception.
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Razor Penguin 84 posts |
Sep 19, 2000, 18:53
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This is an interesting thread, and I may as well put my two cents in. I'll preface my remarks by just saying that all my anti-drug comments spring from my desire to see people get the maximum out of life. I don't judge the people who do it (they have every right to do so), only the action and the extent to which their drug use is destructive & anti-creative. And in my own case and from what I've observed it usually is destructive, if not sooner then certainly later. One of my main themes is poison. We are all living in the middle of a major ecological disaster. That is simply an objective fact. This is truly "The Age of Poisons." And believe me it comes from personal experience when I say that our bodies are under enough of a burden already. Specifically our livers are already working overtime to get rid of toxins which come from our food, air, water, & (a HUGE culprit) prescription drugs. And since I've spent the last 6 years getting that shite out of my body at great personal expense (and feel a MILLION times better), I'm not about to start the process all over again. Why on earth would I? But the human body's capacity for regeneration is absolutely astounding once it is tapped into. That is why I would highly recommend that those who "indulge" simply give their bodies a break by doing herbal colon cleanses, food supplementation, saunas, etc. on a regular basis just to clean out the rubbish. It's no accident that Timothy Leary died of cancer or that Julian did the strongest work of his career after cleaning up his act a bit. And don't stand pat, mare-C. Find some better doctors who don't practice clueless mainstream medicine. Your "natural chemical balance" isn't natural at all, I suspect. I had very similar problems, and the cures came from directions I never dreamed of. You owe it to yourself to look into some options. Trust me when I say that there are some.
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mare-C 156 posts |
Sep 20, 2000, 05:02
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You're correct of course about the fallacy of the phrase "natural chemical balance" - I could have explained myself a little better there. What I was trying to get at was a certain predisposition to anxious states - I'm uncertain exactly how this pans out (genetic? behavioural?) but it would seem that certain individuals have less natural (ie: instinctive) resistance to these states. Tonight I've had a beer & several handrolled fags & a prescription serotonin inhibitor & also some Kava Kava extract earlier on in the day to help take the edge off things & drop off to sleep. Even without taking into account god-knows-what sort of agents were in the food I ate, I'm far from anything like a "natural" chemical balance. Regarding the GP incident, it was approaching 10 years ago, & remains (almost) a one-off in my dealings with the medical world. However, I didn't want to give the impression that I'm blindly & passively reliant upon the say-so of GPs or therapists. I won't need to tell you that at times, some outside intereference is required simply to break the chain of behaviour. In general, I distrust the reliance upon prescription / over-the-counter drugs (& especially the manner in which paracetemol is so widely trusted & eaten like sweeties), but I've found them useful as a short-term measure. But it's mightily encouraging to hear the opinions of someone who's managed to break the cycle, & hugely encouraging to know that there are better options out there. Until now, I think I've been guilty of looking for sticking plasters & somewhat afraid to confront the deeper issues & thus gain more permanent relief. Ta v for the advice.
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a23 1004 posts |
Sep 20, 2000, 08:14
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I've been trying to find out more on this. So far it seems that LSD's one of the most difficult drugs to lab-test for, with only 2 labs (Cardiff and Belfast) doing analyses. I've asked the biochemist at the hospital to get me definitive info - commin' soon
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Lord Lucan 2702 posts |
Sep 20, 2000, 18:30
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It'll be interesting to get an answer from a medical point of view instead of some mashed person at a squat party! Well done. Whatever the answer is, it's indisputable that the effect on the mind is long-term, which can be a positive or negative thing.
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Vox Phantom 104 posts |
Sep 20, 2000, 21:12
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Today in Salon.com's "Dear Buzzed": http://www.salon.com/health/addiction/drugs/2000/09/20/lsd_hppd/index.html
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fitzcoraldo 2706 posts |
Sep 20, 2000, 23:06
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standard urinalysis, the usual drug test used in british industry, tests for: amphetamines,barbituates,benzodiazepines,cannabis,cocaine,mdma,mda,methadone,methaqualone,opiates,phencyclidine,propoxyphene. the two forms of test I have come across are on-site urinalysis (dipstick),lab analysis of urine sample.both of these methods do not indicate when a substance was taken or how much was taken, all they indicate is that a substance has been taken. chemically yours kidneybingo fitzcoraldo
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a23 1004 posts |
Sep 21, 2000, 18:46
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My source tells me that analysis is only done (medically) in a lab in Liverpool and that samples of urine need to be taken within 3 days of last ingestion. As fitz states, LSD is not tested for in standard urine drug screens, and will not be done even if requested on a block request for drug screen unless it is clearly specified individually and the reason given (presumably to do with costs - perhaps unless you live in Liverpool?..). It can be detected in hair and nails for months afterwards, but this method of analysis is not clinically available and would only be used for research purposes. I am not sure what additional analyses are used by the police.
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