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Re: Nae state, nae class and nae cash
Oct 28, 2002, 19:44
"I admit I would like to see the look on religous, right wing loyalist faces if Scotland went independent. But to be honest for a party that claims to be socialist it is a distraction from the main aim of removing the capitalist system."

Yes, I agree, but the stated aim of the SNP is independence first, socialism after. Or are you talking about the SSP ? In that case, yes, you are right true socialism can't come before nationality, but a real scottish revolution would be left wing in UK terms.
"Also I think a Capitalist, Independant Scotland would be quite capable of generating it's own career politicians. Do you imply that the Scots are somehow better and superior and that Scottish Politicians will be incapable of careerism."

Unfortunately I can't claim that the Scots are free from career politicians. Anyone who thinks they are a good leader can obviously be dismissed from the short list of leadeship IMO. I hope Scotland, when it eventually clears itself of English influence also clears itself of corporate subjectation, but that is more my hope than my reasoned analysis.

Yes, once we are free we will be reliant upon the few free voices in England and elsewhere supporting us. Thats why I am talking to you, begging understanding.
I think Scotland has a good shot at being free simply because the US views us as a progenator of thier own culture, ie a free scotland is likely to incur gunships than any other country.

By my reckoning, half of Scotland will have to immigrate to allow full Socialism here, despite what the polls say. By my reckoning, we are a few years away from that yet. What do you all think ? Will Scotland free itself, and will its independence mean anything ?
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