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Merrick
Merrick
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Red & Green
Sep 04, 2002, 16:35
"most of the (not completely mad) left now orientate themselves around the issues that originated in the 'green'movement (for cynical reasons perhaps, but still, they are there, and doing it seriously)".

I was actually just going to post something about this. My major problem with traditional left wing thinking is that it reduces everything to industrial practicality and wilfully ignores so much that's essential to the human spirit. As Grufty Jim said, it'd be fine to have wealth redistibution as your main focus if there were any evidence that wealth made people happy.

While there've been a lot of socialists and greens combining on issues in recent years as individuals, that certainly isn't what's happened with the actual *Parties* and their publications. They have been notable by their absenceand/or hostility to environmental movements.

"the SWP is greatly criticised on the left because it DOESN'T criticise the likes of George Monbiot and Naomi Klein" - maybe, but neither does it ever stick its oar in to anything green.

Indeed, its contribution to many anti-capitalist things is to print up loads of placards with their name at the top, and bring buses of people who arrive as late as possible and leave as early as possible, spending the intervening time marching on the streets behind other people.

It keeps an ear to the ground for what issues are igniting passion, then tags along using them as chances to recruit people to the SWP. This is not solidarity, it is the opposite - not lending support to a cuase, but using a cause to get weight for the monotheistic god The Party.

*rant mode: OFF*
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