sanshee
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Edited Oct 13, 2010, 11:10
Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:03
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Keith, I never called anyone reactionary. Don't just say things with no proof. And which articles did you goolge that states the organisation is responsible for saving the lives of 2m? Can you provide links to them please? I can't find any.
EDIT: You;ve also quoted part of my post by chopping at least one sentece in half!
Not a fair way to do things.
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The Sea Cat
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:05
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That old tax issue, eh ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/27/u2-irish-aid-group-coalition
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Squid Tempest
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:11
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keith a wrote: I think 'pointless' was the word I used for that bit.
I thought it was like some crass soundbite a modern politician would say. Sounds good, but is ultimately hollow. Unless you live your life as some weird take on David Carradine’s Kung-fu programme and get all Zen-like!
Otherwise, it's like me answering your last message with...
All this 'you say you can’t understand why people don’t understand’ is as reactionary saying you don’t understand.
It’s basically “Let’s call everyone who disagrees with me a reactionary.”
Brilliant.
And the bit I said I didn't understand was a totally different bit but I'm starting to feel like a parrot now...
I don't agree I'm afraid.
"All this 'you only complain because it's Bono' defence is as reactionary as actually complaining for that very reason."
To me that stands up to scrutiny, and makes perfect sense. Presumably to you it doesn't. And I don't think it equates to:
"All this 'you say you can’t understand why people don’t understand’ is as reactionary saying you don’t understand. "
either.
Not much point in discussing it further though, this thread is already chock full of you and sanshee going to and fro with it! I think agreeing to differ is probably the order of the day. I merely wanted sanshee to know that I concurred. hope you don't mind!
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sanshee
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:14
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Cheers Squid.
I'm done with this one now, but thanks!
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The Sea Cat
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:14
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/09/artsnews.ireland
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The Sea Cat
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Edited Oct 13, 2010, 11:22
John Pilger's Viewpoint
Oct 13, 2010, 11:18
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http://www.newstatesman.com/200506270006
Exactly. Nail On The Head, as usual.
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grufty jim
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 11:20
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sanshee wrote: Keith, I never called anyone reactionary. Don't just say things with no proof. And which articles did you goolge that states the organisation is responsible for saving the lives of 2m? Can you provide links to them please? I can't find any.
I don't know where Keith got the 2m figure, but I used it as well and was quoting an RTE documentary, so can't provide the reference (you could watch the doc on RTE Player, but you need to have an Irish IP address -- just like the BBC player needs a UK one).
However, the doc was part of a high-profile 5 part series (Ireland's Greatest) and is likely to have been well-researched.
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keith a
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 12:18
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sanshee wrote: Keith, I never called anyone reactionary. Don't just say things with no proof.
Why don't you read what you said, Sanshees?
"All this 'you only complain because it's Bono' defence is as reactionary as actually complaining for that very reason."
Is that not saying that everyone who didn't adopt the usual anti-Bono stance here - Grufty, Dodge, Ian, myself - were being 'reactionary'?
That's sure what it looks like to me.
sanshee wrote:
EDIT: You;ve also quoted part of my post by chopping at least one sentece in half!
Not a fair way to do things.
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Why not? I included both parts of what you said. I didn't cleverly edit them to suit myself. I included it all but answered both parts of the sentence directly.
I don't see anything wrong with that whatsoever.
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keith a
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Re: More Bono bashing (never enough IMO)
Oct 13, 2010, 12:19
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I don't mind at all. You're entitled to your opinion the same as the rest of us.
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Kid Calamity
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Re: John Pilger's Viewpoint
Oct 13, 2010, 12:35
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It makes for disappointing, but not totally unexpected reading.
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