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handofdave 3426 posts |
Dec 31, 2009, 22:02
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_on_go_ot/us_cia_afghan_attack Not very intelligent. I guess that's the last time they make that mistake.
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drewbhoy 1754 posts |
Dec 31, 2009, 22:12
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The same thing happened to British soldiers when they where training Afghans to be police officers. But at least it was impossible to detect that person. Still, any loss of life is sad. The Taliban also executed 6 so called spies. It's all a bit of a mess I'm afraid.
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handofdave 3426 posts |
Dec 31, 2009, 22:24
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drewbhoy wrote: It's all a bit of a mess I'm afraid. That's the understatement of the decade. Afghanistan was the straw that broke the USSR's back. I wonder if it will be ours, too.
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drewbhoy 1754 posts |
Dec 31, 2009, 22:32
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handofdave wrote: drewbhoy wrote: It's all a bit of a mess I'm afraid. Afghanistan was the straw that broke the USSR's back. I wonder if it will be ours, too. You wonder if anybody in the allied forces, including in particular the political mob who are to blame, did any forward planning. We can only hope for better things and it looks like the forces are in for the long haul. Anyway, sir, I hope your 2010 is a good one as I wish it for everybody in the world. Be good!
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handofdave 3426 posts |
Jan 01, 2010, 08:37
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drewbhoy wrote: You wonder if anybody in the allied forces, including in particular the political mob who are to blame, did any forward planning. Of course, they did... they decided to attack Afghanistan, and then Iraq, with the intent of both manufacturing a war with which to justify large contracts with well-connected corporate powers, and to control resources, and to sway popular opinion. It's classic propaganda-fed meddling. Thing is, I have no love whatsoever for the Taliban either, and in some respect I almost think the greedy fuckers of our grotesquely wealthy western economic elite and the medieval militants of Islam deserve each other. They can blow each other up for all I care. Would it be so that they could constrain their killing to just themselves. That's the problem... the innocent always suffer far more than the men with guns. This is my only wish for the New Year... that everyone go home and quit blowing each other up. There's been far too much of it going on.
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drewbhoy 1754 posts |
Jan 02, 2010, 19:37
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handofdave wrote: drewbhoy wrote: You wonder if anybody in the allied forces, including in particular the political mob who are to blame, did any forward planning. Of course, they did... they decided to attack Afghanistan, and then Iraq, with the intent of both manufacturing a war with which to justify large contracts with well-connected corporate powers, and to control resources, and to sway popular opinion. It's classic propaganda-fed meddling. Thing is, I have no love whatsoever for the Taliban either, and in some respect I almost think the greedy fuckers of our grotesquely wealthy western economic elite and the medieval militants of Islam deserve each other. They can blow each other up for all I care. Would it be so that they could constrain their killing to just themselves. That's the problem... the innocent always suffer far more than the men with guns. This is my only wish for the New Year... that everyone go home and quit blowing each other up. There's been far too much of it going on. Surely the American security should keep tight all the allowing for no lapses even when trying to build up trust. Anyway this the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8436635.stm This is what I mean't by forward planning or the lack of it. We, the allies (Britain, Canada, Pakistan, America etc.) in the war against terrorism encourage innocent people to rise up and show, basically cowards, no safe haven. This they did and this was their reward. Makes me wonder if we ever intended to help them in the first place. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8437473.stm All they wanted to do was play volleyball. I'm going to watch the, probably, the biggest football derby in the world tomorrow I know I'll make it home.
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dodge one 1242 posts |
Jan 02, 2010, 20:45
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The Taliban/Al-Qaeda are very likely going to be the first group of people in history to bring a richly deserved holocaust upon themselves. It's only a matter of time too. Just like the Palestinians, they will bring much death and despair to those who won't deserve it, by repeatedly retreating into the midst of there communities, villages and homes. But an awful reckoning is coming. Pakistan is a nuclear arsenal/power plant equipped nation. Sooner or later an incident is bound to occur. And the perpetrators will be caught between the might and justifiable outrage of Pakistan, and our coalition troops in Afghanistan. No where to run but straight into annihilation. I've long since lost any hope for peace with these groups of people. How can anyone board a plane with the intent to kill 300 or more Men, Women and children ? Or more....when that same plane is flown into a populace center. What society breeds that? Why have any regard or tolerance for that? How can anyone target and attack over 400 schools for children for in Pakistan? Or Destroy Buddhist cultural monuments 2000 years old? What is the Taliban's cultural worth to the rest of the world besides Heroin? This is no longer an issue of politics. It's an issue that mankind has to face. How long will we as a species allow such EVIL behavior to exist anywhere amongst ourselves? How can we go forward into the future with that to contend with? I for one, will not feel any remorse to see such twisted evil fucks swinging from gibbets by the hundreds. If that's what it takes. Their time should have never existed at all. It seems clear to me that a scorched earth policy is all they understand and dole out themselves. I can only see it being met back to them in kind, Sevenfold. Everyone is a peaceful 'Righteous Muther-Fucker' till the shit comes down on them personally, or those they love. Then were all baying for the same thing. Terrible Retribution. It's just an incident away. And an aside too, that gentleman who interceded on the flight to Detroit on Christmas eve. He is a hero, and a fine American. He is also a far better man than me. I do not know that i could have restrained myself from killing that fuck from Sudan on the spot. I value those in my life, that much.
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dodge one 1242 posts |
Jan 02, 2010, 21:06
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Correction: I meant that fuck from Nigeria. It's getting so it's difficult to keep up with all the rocks these mass murder's crawl out from underneath of.
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handofdave 3426 posts |
Jan 02, 2010, 21:21
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The problem with scorched earth warfare is that it's virtually impossible to carry out in the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan. There's just too much territory, too many caves for the fuckers to hide in. And of course, too many civilians getting slaughtered in the crossfire, which blows the whole 'hearts and minds' strategy to hell. I know how you feel, tho. Militant Islam is a psychological pit of paranoia, outwardly directed anger and pathological sexual shame, not to mention total disregard for innocent lives (even Islamic ones). But it's more akin to the mob than it is, for example, the Nazis. It's a loose affiliation without any national center. Going 'to war' against it in the traditional sense is like attacking the North End of Boston with the army because there's mafia there. You might kill some mobsters, but in the process you also kill thousands of innocents and do massive property damage. Personally, I think the old taboos about targeted executions are outdated. Rather than massive invasions (which have been pointed out by some to actually make us less nimble in the fight), I think it's logical to go after these bastards with more precision. I have no problem with killing the fuckers who send pickup truck bombs into crowds of innocent people. Fucking cowards who blow up unsuspecting folk just trying to live their lives deserve no mercy.
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drewbhoy 1754 posts |
Edited Jan 02, 2010, 22:19
Jan 02, 2010, 22:18
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Meanwhile in Denmark a Somali man tries to kill the cartoonist that depicted Mohammed with a grenade in his turban. Whilst think that the guy who drew, no pun intended, this is a bit stupid he should be allowed to express an opinion. The sensible, clever people of that faith could have argued sensibly for the withdrawl of the offending article. Sadly the bigots whipped up a storm ala Rushdie and this is it's result. Funny and tragic how all these stories link up and join hands. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8437652.stm I'm reliably informed that there are a lot of good Somalians so we shouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
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