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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited Nov 18, 2009, 10:34
Nov 18, 2009, 10:31
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http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/world-on-course-for-catastrophic-6deg-rise-reveal-scientists-1822396.html Funny how there's not so many nay sayers around these days. Sorry for the downer folks. P.S. the utility advert at the foot of the article. Shurley shome mishtake ?
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Merrick 2148 posts |
Nov 18, 2009, 11:10
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The Sea Cat wrote: Funny how there's not so many nay sayers around these days. George Monbiot's piece in the Guardian the other week has figures showing that climate denial is on the increase. more, he suggests that as the likelihood of catastrophic climate change increases, so our denial of it is likely to increase. http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/11/02/death-denial/
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Nov 18, 2009, 11:32
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Merrick wrote: The Sea Cat wrote: Funny how there's not so many nay sayers around these days. George Monbiot's piece in the Guardian the other week has figures showing that climate denial is on the increase. more, he suggests that as the likelihood of catastrophic climate change increases, so our denial of it is likely to increase. http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/11/02/death-denial/ Wow. Very interesting article. Everyone I know accepts it as fact, but that's quite shocking. The ultimate pyschological defense tactic rather than facing the unpleasant truth.
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Daminxa 1415 posts |
Nov 18, 2009, 22:23
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It's classic human nature. Denial of the horrible facts. On some level we believe that if we pretend it's not happening it'll go away. Tis a scary defence mechanism that ultimately accelerates the arrival of what we're trying to run away from.
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dodge one 1242 posts |
Nov 18, 2009, 22:42
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1/40th of 1% is normal C02 levels in our atmosphere. The smallest variation in that amount, measured in Parts Per Million, is the difference between an Ice Age, and what the planet has known for nearly 11,000 years. There is no disputing what the Ice Core samples have told us, prior to melting away. They held 900,000 years of striated data. We are the cause. I'm glad i never had children.
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laresident 596 posts |
Nov 19, 2009, 01:07
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The denial of ever present life threatening dangers is indeed a survival characteristic of our minds. If we became completely aware of the true risks we take every day, we would curl up in the corner and go mad. Probably wouldn’t have got very far on an evolutionary level either.
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited Nov 19, 2009, 10:16
Nov 19, 2009, 10:10
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dodge one wrote: 1/40th of 1% is normal C02 levels in our atmosphere. The smallest variation in that amount, measured in Parts Per Million, is the difference between an Ice Age, and what the planet has known for nearly 11,000 years. There is no disputing what the Ice Core samples have told us, prior to melting away. They held 900,000 years of striated data. We are the cause. I'm glad i never had children. No one can argue with that. I never had children . Not by choice, just the way it worked out as I never got round to marriage. I'm very glad I don't have that worry now.
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sanshee 633 posts |
Edited Nov 19, 2009, 11:22
Nov 19, 2009, 11:11
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dodge one wrote: 1/40th of 1% is normal C02 levels in our atmosphere. The smallest variation in that amount, measured in Parts Per Million, is the difference between an Ice Age, and what the planet has known for nearly 11,000 years. There is no disputing what the Ice Core samples have told us, prior to melting away. They held 900,000 years of striated data. We are the cause. I'm glad i never had children. The Sea Cat" wrote: No one can argue with that. I never had children . Not by choice, just the way it worked out as I never got round to marriage. I'm very glad I don't have that worry now. Tsk. As Whitney says, 'the children are our future'. If we care about climate change, surely it's for 'future generations'? No? Why bother then? This generation of kids could, if given half the chance, grow up to sort it all out. I find the argument redundant otherwise, and really just about staring at yer own navel tbh. EDIT: PS not having children coz you don't want to and sticking to it is something I commend wholehearedly and doesn't happen often enough, which is different of course. :-) x
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited Nov 19, 2009, 12:15
Nov 19, 2009, 11:25
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sanshee wrote: dodge one wrote: 1/40th of 1% is normal C02 levels in our atmosphere. The smallest variation in that amount, measured in Parts Per Million, is the difference between an Ice Age, and what the planet has known for nearly 11,000 years. There is no disputing what the Ice Core samples have told us, prior to melting away. They held 900,000 years of striated data. We are the cause. I'm glad i never had children. No one can argue with that. I never had children . Not by choice, just the way it worked out as I never got round to marriage. I'm very glad I don't have that worry now. Tsk. As Whitney says, 'the children are our future'. If we care about climate change, surely it's for 'future generations'? No? Why bother then? This generation of kids could, if given half the chance, grow up to sort it all out. I find the argument redundant otherwise, and really just about staring at yer own navel tbh. x You appear to imply that I am somehow morally obliged to procreate. However, it could equally be said that your own personal opinion on whether or not I have children is arrogant, ill mannered and inappropriate. EDIT : I assume that I can take your later edit as a form of apology, even if only by way of clarification.
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Toni Torino 1699 posts |
Nov 19, 2009, 14:37
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sanshee wrote: dodge one wrote: 1/40th of 1% is normal C02 levels in our atmosphere. The smallest variation in that amount, measured in Parts Per Million, is the difference between an Ice Age, and what the planet has known for nearly 11,000 years. There is no disputing what the Ice Core samples have told us, prior to melting away. They held 900,000 years of striated data. We are the cause. I'm glad i never had children. The Sea Cat" wrote: No one can argue with that. I never had children . Not by choice, just the way it worked out as I never got round to marriage. I'm very glad I don't have that worry now. Tsk. As Whitney says, 'the children are our future'. If we care about climate change, surely it's for 'future generations'? No? Why bother then? This generation of kids could, if given half the chance, grow up to sort it all out. I find the argument redundant otherwise, and really just about staring at yer own navel tbh. EDIT: PS not having children coz you don't want to and sticking to it is something I commend wholehearedly and doesn't happen often enough, which is different of course. :-) x "Could" doesn't cut it though, does it This generation of children are going to HAVE to sort it all out or face Lord alone knows what catastophes ending up with Kevin Costner delivering the fucking mail...
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