Julian Cope presents Head Heritage

Not all animal testing involves vivisection.

And if you are hardline opposed to animal testing, but pro-choice, how do you reconcile the fact that, yes, a living fetus is being destroyed? Despite the claims that the neurology of a fetus isn't capable of feeling distress, it's an inescapable fact that a typical abortion is a pretty gruesome procedure.

I am pro choice, but I'm not under any illusions that it's not a harsh thing.