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Edited Aug 28, 2007, 00:10
Re: The whole movie
Aug 27, 2007, 22:56
I enjoyed the analysis of the pagan roots of Christianity, but then it leaps back into the usual conspiracy.

Christianity is a myth? Sure. I don't have a problem with that.

Religion is a tool used to control society. Fine. I agree.

Christianity is a myth, and religion is a tool used to control society, therefore the WTC towers were brought down by the US government? Sorry but this is a deliberate and disingenuous argument. I'll keep watching, but I suspect that I've heard it all before, and however slickly it's presented, I doubt it will offer me any new insight.

Edit:

To be more specific.

at around 47 minutes in, the video claims that no wreckage was found at the pentagon.

In fact lots of wreckage, including human remains was found.

"Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th."

The above quote, along with photographs can be found here: http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

More can be found here, showing clearly aircraft debris.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6

That's just one example, but the half hour of video I'm watching right now hangs upon this statement.

"The 9:11 myth

19 Hijackers, directed by Osama B Laden, took over 4 commercial jets with box-cutters and, while evading the Air Defense system (NORAD), hit 75% of their targets. In turn, W. Trade towers 1,2 and 7 collapsed due to structural failure through fire in a "pancake" fashion, while the plane that hit the pentagon vapourised upon impact, as did the plane that crashed in Shanksville. The 911 commission found that there were no warnings for this act of terrorism, while multiple government failures prevented adequate defense."

So the zeitgeist film defines what the "myth" is, then sets about debunking it. Yet the definition is flawed. I'm still only about an hour into it, but it really does seem to be a rehash of the same old nonsense.

And watching some more. And editing this further.

At 57 minutes, the video talks about how WTC 7 is brought down by a controlled explosion. The reason given is that they didn't want to damage surrounding buildings.

What?

They've just demolished the Twin Towers, and killed thousands of people, but they're worried about WTC7 damaging surrounding buildings? Perhaps people might be angry or something.

Just the 3 towers and 3000 deaths just aren't enough to make people sit up and take notice.

Hmmmm. So which is the real conspiracy? Loose change's cruise missiles? or Zeitgeist's thermite?

I think we should be told.

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