Lawrence
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Re: God the Capitalist
Sep 22, 2003, 22:15
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And greed. Not to mention fear.
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Lawrence
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Re: God the Capitalist
Sep 22, 2003, 22:17
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I think the idiots who post stuff on Slate.com are more cynical than you could ever be.
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Lawrence
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Re: Destroy ourselves
Sep 22, 2003, 22:20
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Heh-heh!
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Dog 3000
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Re: God the Capitalist
Sep 22, 2003, 22:28
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Uhhh OK.
I've never hung around slate.com, I'm not sure what you mean.
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Lawrence
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Re: God the Capitalist
Sep 22, 2003, 23:00
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It's a total freak show! See for yourself. I actually got censored there for saying something intelligent.
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morfe
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Fuckitupus
Sep 23, 2003, 00:09
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Dog 3000:
"we may be seeding the garden for whoever lives there after us."
Lawrence:
"Maybe it is better if we destroy ourselves so that greater beings might inhabit the earth"
I suppose that's 'beyond' cynicism!!
I care about what we do to the Earth now, and what message i pass down to my children, or my friends.
In saying 'our garden' I was musing in metaphor, you can pick me up on that and say that it's not 'ours' and I would heartily agree, all the more reason to look after it rather than drain as many bucks out of it and help cause much misery in the process. Please don't presume my loathing of corporatism, greed, pollution, and exploitation is 'cynicism', if I wasn't at least optimistic that people are essentially 'good' at heart (even Anne Frank said as much) I wouldn't be so scathing about the things that can fuck us and the planet up, it would be complete nihilism. The fact that the sun continues to rise after I die makes me happy to see the sun rise every day. Wouldn't it be terrible if The Mom did her thing for us alone? That's a mindset with which I fight tooth and nail. The fact that my bones and flesh will help something grow and die, makes me happy. Life is beautiful like that. I cannot help feeling better about giving something than taking something. It's not a mawkish sentiment it's a real feeling of worth. We need to feel worthy and whole in a different way than being (materially/acquisitively) 'better' than our neighbour. I learned from my grandfather that you get out of the ground what you put in it. And I learned working in special needs education that it's the same with the human heart. As for me being 'more' cynical... Joni Mitchell sang 'they paved paradise and put up a parking lot'. Now they use her to records to sell Mercedes Benz. That's not me being cynical, that's me berating cynical people using real feelings to sell another product or destroy another beautiful place to maximise capital. Nothing can be further from the truth to call my anger at such cynicism...cynical!
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Lawrence
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Re: Fuckitupus
Sep 23, 2003, 02:23
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There! That's the best thing said on this thread so far...
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duckbreath
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Re: the 'it' in bullshit
Sep 23, 2003, 17:25
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why is this message called "the 'it' in bullshit"
i dont get it
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Toni Torino
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Re: the 'it' in bullitt
Sep 23, 2003, 17:27
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Steve McQueen...... no contest.......
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morfe
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Re: the 'it' in bullshit
Sep 23, 2003, 17:47
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Apologies Duckbreath, it was a (probably) crap reference to the aforementioned memes and labels, hence i applied 'it' to the general present state of Capitalism and exploitation in general. Money talks and bullshit talks. Allegedly. The 'it' in Bullsh*it* is just that. I like to know what is being walked and talked, it becomes obsessive when I know we live in a culture grounded largely in lies of varying size and effect.
(Shoots self in head and foot after failing miserably for the second time to be concise)
On a lighter note, anyone see that part in Spinal Tap movie when their manager hears that old "Money talks and bullshit walks" statement? His double take and total confusion is the best!
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