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Re: Better than Capitalism
Sep 09, 2003, 22:17
You clueless fuckin hippy ;)

I support what you want, what I was trying to say (albeit badly) that any attempt to move in such a direction results in a whole heap of anti-freedom dictatorial lunacy. Sure the end result may sound lovely and cosy, but getting there will be brutal, violent and divisve. Pretty much like all hippy-type or enviromentalist led politic. It ends up internalising and eating itself just like identity politics do. It gets ugly fast.

NO, I'm not saying I support anybodys right to exploit the enviroment or people, that would be silly. What I'm saying is threatening the current powerbase and system with regulation will not work, you have to completely destroy the powerbase first. If you don't it will kill you as soon as you look like being a serious threat. In order to defend yourself your politic has to alter, internalise, and then starts judging itself and those that subscribe to it start blaming others that subscribe to it.

The enviromental exploitation is not the issue, its a symptom of the wrong approach that we take. Diddling with things to improve how people behave without completely destroying every aspect of the current world economic system is futile. Honestly, I don't think we'd be better off all going to back to using horses and living off the land in a groovy gaia friendly way. But then, I was never a fan of Pol Pot ;) Actually he's a good example of the natural conclusion of that politic.

As Joe Strummer said 'I don't belive in a socialism where we all wear boiler suits and drive Yugos. I believe in a socialism where we all drive BMW's wear Armani and Rolexs'.

Technology may actually get us out of our evil earth raping ways by developing alternatives, it also may not. Whatever, attacking the individual or individual corporations or even attempting to police their actions would as I said get very ugly very fast. I strongly question the ethics of what you sugges.t I mean, this non-governmental strike force you describe, do we vote for em ? How can we get rid of the bad apples ? etc, etc.

If we're all going to hell in a hand basket, as many envirometal doomsayers suggest, then I want a front seat to watch the fireballs. Gimme popcorn and a hotdog made out of goats genitals. There is no other choice for me that doesn't lead to trampling on my own ethics and the importance I invest in any individuals soul.

I also reckon we will naturally evolve into smaller communities, a sorta friendly feudalism is on it's way. It'll be just as fucked up as the way we are now, but fuck it, it'll be different.
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