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drewbhoy
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Edited Feb 15, 2017, 13:56
Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 15, 2017, 13:54
tiompan wrote:
tjj wrote:
tjj wrote:
tiompan wrote:
The jargon /tech terminology has an oft heard definition for the results of endogamy . One impact in this case is the prevalence of galactosaemia .


What a shame this subject has been hijacked by someone with an axe to grind.
My friend from Derry is over at present and visited me this afternoon so I asked her about this. She told me the oral tradition is that in 1603 when James I came to the throne he started to implement the plantations in Ulster. The Irish clans or Gaelic Irish decided to rise up and traveled down to Kinsale to meet the French who were supposed to be helping them (around 1607). The French never arrived due to bad weather and the Gaelic Irish were routed. This resulted in the Flight of the Earls when all the leaders fled to France and Spain. The Gaelic Irish clans were left leaderless so took to the roads and became travellers. I think the paper you posted the link to does make reference to this history and sets out to prove scientifically there is no ancestoral link with the Roma. The conversation with my friend helped to clarify this in lay-person's terms.


I know its off topic but am catching up on Irish history, it was never taught at school. Didn't know about the Flight of the Earls until yesterday though there seems to be a crossover with the Gunpowder Plot. A couple of links below for anyone interested.

http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/flight-earls

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/history-heritage/history-of-ireland/the-flight-of-the-earls-1/



There is so much , but the 1789 uprising is interesting in it's relation to what was happening in the wider world , very bloody but also funny .French troops landing at Killala in Mayo and being greeted as soldiers of the blessed virgin must have been worthy of Milligan or Na gCopaleen ,once the greetings had been translated .


It didn't help that Wolfe Tone was captured and that the United Irishmen were not very united at times and rose up as local areas instead of one force.
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